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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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So I Autocross, but have not done it in a 993 for a few seasons now. After being handed the keys to a GT3 it's hard to say no.

Anyway, we had a good day here up in Seattle, the Sun was out (for Seattle) it was dry (again for Seattle, the grass was soaked) and it was warm *(over 45 deg).

We did some fun runs after the event, and I took out the old C4S, used my data acquisition system to see some telemetry over my GT3 runs.

I was just over 2 sec slower then the GT3, but I'm heaver, have over 100hp less plus my crappy S04 tires. But still this would have been 1st in class by .5 sec, so still a good time. I placed 2nd in class in the GT3 loosing to the cars owner by less then .1 sec and was the 2nd top time for a Porsche that day, even with the race tire prepped cars.

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The GT3 run, man that engine likes to REV!
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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I've never understood autocross. Why not go to a track where you can get out of second gear? To each his own, of course.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:02 PM
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I love the videos. Did you just use the torque app and a go pro?
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by NP993
I've never understood autocross. Why not go to a track where you can get out of second gear? To each his own, of course.
I'll only speak for myself, having been around both disciplines 30+ years, and basically sum it up by saying they're two totally different things.

So.........was I glad there was an autocross "plus" a couple of weeks ago as I wandered through Phoenix? Yes. Kinda like Stealth above, I hadn't done one in 15+ years. Ended up 1st on street tires, 8th overall. Good enough to wake me up, and understand a couple of things on the Turbo before I hit a new-to-me track in Chuckwalla this weekend to instruct with the SD Region BMW folks.

Was able to make a couple of changes on the car, and pull my time down nearly 3 seconds from initial run(s) recon mode (67-->64-->61). Fastest time was 55 in a three time SCCA National Champion Elise; fastest "normal" car was a Z06 'Vette at 58 seconds on Hoosiers.

Odd thing is that with autocross you can get good feedback in being able to confirm your ability to read a line Right Now, and adjust the next run. On track you're pretty much dialed in after 3-4 laps, even on a new-to-you course.

(I do miss the Olden Days autocrosses I was able to set up when I lived in Phoenix--I'd make sure we'd hit top of 3rd unless we were at the one small parking lot. And then there were the San Diego Zone 8 events at Jack Murphy where I'd usually nearly top out 4th.)
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:18 PM
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That's very straight for autocross...here is one from MetLife stadium from last year

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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NP993
I've never understood autocross. Why not go to a track where you can get out of second gear? To each his own, of course.
I agree...This was much more fun, although I never got out of 3rd.

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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NP993
I've never understood autocross. Why not go to a track where you can get out of second gear? To each his own, of course.
Have you done it? It is super competitive, winning times go down to the thousandth of a second. It's also CHEAP ($30 for the day) and you don't need to do anything to the car to attend. We has a Chaynne Diesel competing last season. It's also not hard on the car (sans tires and brakes). Lastly it has the most turns per distance of any other road racing.

It also makes you WAY better on the track, you learn the limits of the car at 1/2 to 1/3rd the speed. It's also really good for dialing in the car.

I do it because it's cheap (wife doesn't like $500 track days and $2000 track rubber) super competitive and I have a great bunch of guys who I do it with, plus I get to drive a GT3, all I do is show up.

I also love the track, but don't want to take a pristine 993 out there that much, I do a couple a year or more as other people let me use their cars!

Originally Posted by therossinator
I love the videos. Did you just use the torque app and a go pro?
http://www.gps-laptimer.de/Home.html
I use a ODBII interface and external GPS

Originally Posted by NYC993
That's very straight for autocross...here is one from MetLife stadium from last year
This was a very open course, it's our first event of the year, and it's usually an inch of water on the track with green moss that is slippery. Last year there was snow of the ground, so they opened up the course, and of course we had SUN!
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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This is more of the norm.

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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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great runs, amazing videos, I love this kinda thing
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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Hey Mike, whose GT3 did you drive?
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Seriously fast/smooth looking runs. Can't remember ever seeing your name not on the top of the charts. Thanks for the vids Mike. I'll try to get out there at least once this year.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 05:10 PM
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Great videos. Mike, I was the guy on the 993 Rennlisters page asking you about what you were using for data and video overlay. Thanks for the details.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lopro
great runs, amazing videos, I love this kinda thing
Thanks, I do as well

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Hey Mike, whose GT3 did you drive?
My buddy Paul, he just got it late last year. I also run his 996 last year.

Originally Posted by daltvater
Seriously fast/smooth looking runs. Can't remember ever seeing your name not on the top of the charts. Thanks for the vids Mike. I'll try to get out there at least once this year.
I had a rough season last year, had the oldest slowest car in class, usually was around 3-6th place. I'm hoping this year will be better!

The GT3 was smooth, the C4S was a little over driven, but with AWD and understeer it's the only way to be "fast".

Sure, you'll come out, you said that last year, and the year before that....
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 11:36 PM
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Hey Mike, is that the stock exhaust on your 993? It's sounds great!
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinC2S
Hey Mike, is that the stock exhaust on your 993? It's sounds great!
It's a DACH X-cat pipe and Fister STG II's
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