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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeichen 282
When common sense goes out the window like that it's usually a good indicator of a coming downward trend...
Possibly. But in some cases, not all, where the house is only be purchased for the land underneath, and the existing house will be demolished, inspections of the existing home become superfluous.

Some folks here have posted some really horrible-looking 356's, which have been bought for something like $60K-ish +/-. Who really knows where the 993 market will go, but I'm betting it will be up with an occasional crash or two along the way.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 06:08 PM
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Quads in high finance - where is that scallywag...
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 06:18 PM
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Quads in high finance - where is that scallywag...
He doesn't like threads about values.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 06:31 PM
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This thread reminds me.... I think the time has come for me to get an "agreed-value" policy on my C2S.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by odurandina
it's sometime in the spring of 1999 and you see a few 993s in the lot, and the new 996s in the showroom...

you're thinking, "should I get the new 911 or the classic old new one while I still can?"

the 993 isn't too much money... you know it looks perfect. it feels perfect. your gut tells you it is perfect...

then you walk up to a new 911, "oh Jesus, this is a big car....looks so long..."

it is long... it drives long.... "Jesus, what the hell did they do to the 911?"


so you take the 993....


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Remember how cheap you could get into a leftover '98 when the 996 came out? You WERE in the business back then, right? (Even in '97 I was pitched a leftover base-ish white '96 coupe for ~$10K off sticker. But I had no sense buying a car like that, then.)

Anyway, all this talk about "crash"........uh huh. We'll all have a LOT more to worry about when that above-mentioned base coupe that's white hot in price today, with say 80K miles, is back to being a sub-$30K car.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by race911
We'll all have a LOT more to worry about when that above-mentioned base coupe that's white hot in price today, with say 80K miles, is back to being a sub-$30K car.
Speaking of which, how is everyone's Russian these days?
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by race911
Remember how cheap you could get into a leftover '98 when the 996 came out? You WERE in the business back then, right? (Even in '97 I was pitched a leftover base-ish white '96 coupe for ~$10K off sticker. But I had no sense buying a car like that, then.

i had been driving an almost new 944 for a few years when i discovered Porsche had fixed the fenders on the 911 and were calling it the 993 (a great day in automotive history, btw. add one more reason to own a 993)....

i didn't have the money then. and when they changed the body in '98, i was incredulous, not to mention pissed. but my live-in gf and i were spending 8 months a year outside the United States running a surf camp. we were a 3 car couple in the states including an '89 C4 (her's from daddy), and i was in an Audi 90 a couple of years later added an '89 928 S4.... our Mexico vehicles consisted of 2 Ford Escapes. no, I wasn't smart/(re; wealthy) enough to get a 993.... (was there a post-production window of well-priced cars?)

I haven't dumped much money into cars the last few years. I've been improving 2 rental properties and just daily driving my 968, keeping it serviced, adding 120 k miles doing quite a lot of traveling and modifications to the car..... next month, the 968 is getting a blueprinted Chevy LS7 (Scoggin-Dickey, Lubbock, TX) and 200mph rebuilt trans to be installed at Eric Hill's shop in Alvarado, TX.... it should be a very fun car.

i wanted to add a rear or mid-engine car for some time. for a while i thought i could cheat - get a 964 and just do a fender/front valance conversion (I'm a *****) but now the 964s are getting near silly $$$ for peasants like me.

btw, your projects are epic.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Edinsf
Quads in high finance - where is that scallywag...
Oh great. You just baited him in........
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:07 AM
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To add fuel to the fire, this green machine 993 listed in the classifieds sold in 3 days. $39k, 170k miles. The seller received 16 messages on the car and one person managed to get the sellers phone # and bought the car right away for what sounds like full price. Doubt there was a PPI either.

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Weissach Vancouver is struggling to get decent 964s or 993s anymore. The supply is just not there. You have to get creative to find cars that aren't listed.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AME_VIP
To add fuel to the fire, this green machine 993 listed in the classifieds sold in 3 days. $39k, 170k miles. The seller received 16 messages on the car and one person managed to get the sellers phone # and bought the car right away for what sounds like full price. Doubt there was a PPI either.

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Weissach Vancouver is struggling to get decent 964s or 993s anymore. The supply is just not there. You have to get creative to find cars that aren't listed.
Indeed. You need to knock on doors or approach owners in parking lots nowadays to find a 964 or 993.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AME_VIP
To add fuel to the fire, this green machine 993 listed in the classifieds sold in 3 days. $39k, 170k miles. The seller received 16 messages on the car and one person managed to get the sellers phone # and bought the car right away for what sounds like full price. Doubt there was a PPI either.

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-in-tahoe.html

Weissach Vancouver is struggling to get decent 964s or 993s anymore. The supply is just not there. You have to get creative to find cars that aren't listed.
A grand total of 3 993 C2 or 993 C2S for sale on Autotrader in CANADA. 3! Crazy for this time of year. One of those is a private sale and the car has 190,000 km on it. With the depreciating C$ I suspect much of the stock has headed south of the border.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
Indeed. You need to knock on doors or approach owners in parking lots nowadays to find a 964 or 993.
Hard to believe that day has come for even base 993s. When I decided I wanted an orange RS I had to get creative and stalk a guy in my neighborhood who had one. In the end he wouldn't let it go for any price, so I fortunately found one through Rennlist on pure luck. Glad I got it when I did- prices on clean 997.1 RSs have seemed to climb about $20k since I bought in November. Also makes me happy that the 993 I've had for ten years is worth more than I paid for it despite using it as much as I want.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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I ran into an old friend yesterday who buys and sells, mostly Porsches, for clients looking for cars. He told me that the North American 993's are now part of a world market and many are being taken out and will never come back. He noted that the stronger Euro is impacting sales again.
He said "what you and I believe are high prices the overseas buyers don't and will pay top dollar" If you have a 993 keep it and if you want one you had better get moving on one…
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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