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Old 10-12-2013, 10:37 AM
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I'm thinking about purchasing a power bleeder. Which Motive Power Bleeder or adapter do I need to work on a 993?
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I use this one http://motiveproducts.3dcartstores.c...109_p_101.html

If you look at this thread you will see what some of us have done to it https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ethod-use.html
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word of caution. After about 3 years my plastic tube from the tank to the master cylinder disintegrated pumping a few ounces of brake fluid into my trunk. It looked perfectly good until it fell apart under pressure. Of course I was at the back doing the rear brakes and didnt notice it until to late.
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Originally Posted by zooming993
Which Motive Power Bleeder or adapter do I need to work on a 993?
The Black Label 0109 European Power Bleeder model.

Still $69.95 at Pelican Parts. Add a can or two of brake fluid and you'll get free shipping.
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Originally Posted by jimq
word of caution. After about 3 years my plastic tube from the tank to the master cylinder disintegrated pumping a few ounces of brake fluid into my trunk. It looked perfectly good until it fell apart under pressure. Of course I was at the back doing the rear brakes and didnt notice it until to late.
Same happened to me. I have now a maintenance task to replace the hose after 2 years.
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Motive has replacement tubes for these things. He posted about them in a thread about a year ago IIRC.
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Originally Posted by 993BillW
Motive has replacement tubes for these things. He posted about them in a thread about a year ago IIRC.
Bill, the owner of Motive Products got back to me in an e-mail with the type of hose and supplier.

Anyone looking to source the tubing for the Motive Products Power Bleeder can get it from US Plastic Corporation who carries Superthane Ester (polyurethane) hose made by New Age Industries.

US Plastic Corporation part number: 56412, 5/16" ID, 7/16" OD. Price per foot back then (Dec 2011) was $0.37.
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IMO this one should work fine as well. http://motiveproducts.3dcartstores.c...der_p_115.html
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Originally Posted by jimq
word of caution. After about 3 years my plastic tube from the tank to the master cylinder disintegrated pumping a few ounces of brake fluid into my trunk. It looked perfectly good until it fell apart under pressure. Of course I was at the back doing the rear brakes and didnt notice it until to late.
I've avoided this by using mine "dry." I just fill the brake fluid reservoir in the car and use the power bleeder to apply aiy pressure. It also makes for a very easy clean up.

The only caveat is that you have to make sure there's always fluid in the reservoir to avoid pumping air into your brake lines. So you may have to remove the bleeder and refill the reservoir a couple of times during the process.
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Originally Posted by IXLR8
Bill, the owner of Motive Products got back to me in an e-mail with the type of hose and supplier.
Thanks for the link, Alex!
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Originally Posted by gonzilla
I've avoided this by using mine "dry." I just fill the brake fluid reservoir in the car and use the power bleeder to apply aiy pressure. It also makes for a very easy clean up.

The only caveat is that you have to make sure there's always fluid in the reservoir to avoid pumping air into your brake lines. So you may have to remove the bleeder and refill the reservoir a couple of times during the process.
+1 to this method, works great. I tried it last night for my 1st brake fluid flush on the 993 and it was easy. It was very easy to clean up / not messy at all.

On a related note I had a ton of air bubbles in the LR line - too a lot of fluid to get rid of that.
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Be VERY careful with these, they like to fail at very bad times.

I would ONLY use it to add pressure to the reservoir to bleed, keeping the Motiv empty

Had about 6 of these over the years, they all failed, so now I just use a suction one from Griot's works perfect and is easier to use.
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Another vote for using these things dry. Safer, and cleaner. Personally, I like Speed Bleeders.
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Do you guys remove the wheels b4 bleeding? I have removed wheels in the past, even with the longer clear tube, but seems it is not necessary as haven't spilled damaging to paint brake fluid, yet.
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Thanks for all the replies. I should have mentioned in my original post, the main reason for looking at the Power Bleeder is to bleed the new slave cylinder when I replace the clutch.



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