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Old 07-14-2003, 06:45 PM
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Question Fire-spitting tailpipes!!

A friend of mine with C4S w/after market turbo charger (Lotec) was in front of me driving at a fast pace on Sunday. I saw fire coming out of his tail pipes a few times.


I think it happens when he was slowing down, and changing gear. It looked pretty cool, but I am wondering whether his engine or exhaust might be damaged because of it.

We got off the highway, switched cars and I tried to repeat the phenomenon by downshifting from 3rd to 2nd @ 4,000 rpm. But I couldn't do it. I heard that it may be due to unburnt gas in the exhaust coming thru the hot tailpipe and got re-ignited again.

Does anyone know why this might happen?
Old 07-15-2003, 12:19 AM
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You mean like this:



Old 07-15-2003, 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Surj-993C2S
You mean like this:
Gee, I just hope you caught that hatchback/station wagon in front of you...



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I've heard that is the aftermarket "tailgaiter / soccer mom eliminator", but I haven't been able to get a part number...
Old 07-15-2003, 04:28 PM
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That photo looks so much like a lion charging a limping gazelle! You just know that death is seconds away... Great pic
Old 07-15-2003, 06:35 PM
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Hi guys,

Thanks for the added comments. But so far, no one has commented on the possible cause & effects.

Is it something to be concerned about?


Thanks,
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Nope - a turbo Porsche running without cats will do this when the turbo is hot. It usually occurs on downshifting as exhaust gasses with unburned fuel are forced out past a red hot turbo and ignite. My 930 does this - it is very cool to see and is normal. It generally does not damage the car.
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Unfortunately it wasn't me driving, this pic is off of my mini DV camera - it was at a trackday at Donnington where we shared the track with a couple of Porsche Racing teams.

The 'Pink Gazelle' ended up in the gravel soon after...!

Old 07-16-2003, 04:53 AM
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I dunno. I'd worry about a rich mixture.
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Well it better be a bit rich when you are under boost or watch out - in any event, ask any turbo tuner out there ahd they will tell you this is normal for a turbo running without cats.
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Thanks for informative comments.

So, this means my friend's turbo-charged C4S maybe running without catalytic converters?

If his car has cats then there shouldn't be any fire coming out of the tailpipes?
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And without cats you can use the leaded gasoline say octane 118 : ). Great on the track with better mid-high rpm but kinda loud for the street and smellls like the dickens. Regards. Mike



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