Zeus993

... and liked it! Swapped out the 997.1 TT cab for a quick ride in '97 993 cab, Silver over Red. Super nice ride, very different power etc... than the TT but... it's very 'mechanical' and I l iked it.

I've only got room for one car. I'm tempted...

OK daily driver? Winter?

Joel

Parnelli

as a DD keep yours

Emmanuel

I agree 100%, power is not everything in what make a good car. Most people who own turbos don't use even 30% of the available power on the street. The 993 is a well balanced car, light and nimble. Much closer to the original 911 than the 997. It's got plenty of performance for everyday driving. It also got that classic Porsche feel going back to the 356 that the newer car don't have. Of course the newer cars do everything better but is it that important? A friend of mine, a big car collector enjoys driving his vintage Fiat 500 Abart in the canyons here in Los Angeles. He says, I am not really going fast but in this car it feels fast so I really enjoy it.

goofballdeluxe

That old saying rings true:

"It's more fun to drive a slow car fast, than it is to drive a fast car slow."

timothymoffat

As a true daily driver, not sure that a 15-18 year old Cab wouldn't be a bit much here in the Lower Mainland. Seemingly good idea during the summer, maybe not so much during our extremely wet winter in Vancouver.

Like the others have said, I fully understand the less power and speed but more enjoyment our cars bring to the table when compared to newer models.

Zeus993

Well said. Vancouver is getting so crazy with speed enforcement that every drive is a white knuckle drive looking out for the local PO's. This to me is why the 993 / 964 gens look so fun. Less power, more noise, more drama, more fun at lower speeds. I agree also with the previous comment on only using 30% of the turbo power. It's nice to have but after doing the WOT a few times etc... I just drive it normal.

I spoke with an owner of a 993 cab the other day who had sold his 997 TT, then his R8, to finally arrive at a 993 cab. Although only owned for 2 weeks, he's loving it. No winter yet. Time will tell but I also drive my TT cab all year, with the top down many times in the colder winter months. Is a 993 cab in the winter that much different than my 997?

fbfisher

+1. Of course you liked it, what's not to like. But I can't imagine that when you got back in your car you said to yourself, "this sucks."

As a dd, in your sucky weather, I'd think you want the 4wd. On long cruises, your car will be hours more comfortable.

993 is a great car to have in the garage, but with room for only one, the 997tt is the one to keep.

goofballdeluxe

Seems to me that an AWD 993 would give you the best experience. Great car, fun as hell, and very capable for Vancouver winter weather as well...maybe a nice C4/C4S would be something you might want to entertain...

timothymoffat

Now a DD coupe I can wrap my head around. The Cab, with its plastic rear window and not-as-well-integrated top relative to the 997, would work best during the spring-fall times here in Vancouver.

As to AWD, in all honesty a 993 with good winter tires would be fine given the limited snow we get in Vancouver (none this past winter, 1 day the winter before). 911s have always had good traction, just need tires for the cooler winter temperatures. If you travel to the interior or Whistler, then a C4/C4S, again with proper winter tires, would be worth considering.

Having said all this, I get the feeling you want a Cab. Only suggestion I can offer, which goes counter to your 1 car need, is a 993 Cab and a 993 coupe for winter (964 coupe equally cool).

fbfisher

You may want to ask the 997 board, I would not expect someone there to suggest you trade your 997tt for two seasonally adjusted 993's.

Zeus993

You know, you are right on. I did get back in my TT cab and said to myself 'this is a GREAT car'. No question and was out in it early this am for a 2 hour run up the twisty coast hwy and back and loved it. So you are right. Maybe with a nice Europipe exhaust I'll get the drama I'm looking for at lower speeds.

Thanks for all your input everyone. I really appreciate it.

Joel

Knight

Joel you'd be blown away how much more fun the 993 NA is on those morning drives. It has just the right balance of power, where honestly some parts of the drive you have the pedal completely floored, yet your still not even going that fast or close to any of the speeds in a TT.

What I suggest is you take a ride with one of the 993 guys one morning run, better yet drive it.

Doesn't solve your DD dilemma, but maybe you'll figure out a way to add a 993 to your garage.

mongrelcat

Try the 993 cab over the next year (use Winter tires like Nokian during the sloppy months.) If you decide it's not for you after all, sell it next Summer for what you paid and buy your 997TT back for less than what you sold it for (or if it's not available buy another for a similar discount vs. today's price.)

Zeus993

That's a GREAT idea. Big difference between the C and the CS? For a second car, the C will be less expensive.

Knight

Later models have the vario-ram, so there is no real difference between an S and non S.

I haven't really driven a non vario-ram 993 in the higher rev range for an extended drive, but I've been told the difference in feel is not that significant.

Porsche 993s with 3.6-liter engines made 272 HP until 1996, when Porsche’s Vario-Ram became a standard offering. Vario-Ram adjusted the length of the air intake ducts according to engine RPMs and the car’s speed. This feature bumped the power up to 285 HP and produced a flatter torque curve.