Rialas

Let me take a guess


Tips rule.

Rialas

The next best thing to a 993 speedster?

A 993 cab.

But let's save that discussion for another thread.

JPP

Uh ... some crazy limeyboy with one hell of an attitude IIRC .. It's all kind of a blue blur at this point ...

p993enthusiast

IIRC Tip S was introduced in late 94 cars for ROW - so I guess for the '95 model year. Good to have both options. Am finding myself using the steering wheel shift buttons more and more, especially on spirited drives.

VintageRacer477

LOL !!!!

Had the Targa in to Porsche Dealer today to program the new key after 5 futile attempts last weekend. Oh how I despise the "Immobilizer." Also asked the Tech to take it for a drive because the "bump" in 2nd has been driving me crazy. WTHeck? Does it really have just 4 speeds???? Or, is it 5??? Tech took it out & was as puzzled as me. With just 18,800 miles on it, I was thinking that it just hasn't been driven hard in a long time and needed an "Italian" tune up. Tech wanted more time with it & suspected a problem with the timing of the Torque Converter lock-up.

Started looking through the "Source of all great Porsche knowledge" the Rennlist & "Bingo!" Thanks guys.

BTW, I have been driving stick-shift cars since I was 14. And, raced for 14 years in stick-shift cars (drag racing & road racing). But, having driven a few PDK-equipped cars, and having knee pains, who needs a clutch. Well, actually, you can shift a standard-shift car without using the clutch. I learned by necessity while commuting to college in a '55 Chevy hot rod. One of the welds on the "bell-crank" of the clutch linkage broke & we found ourselves with a permanently engaged clutch. Synch the rpm's on acceleration & we were good to go for a few days until it was re-welded.

I still prefer a manual for control, but with one bad eye, I need my "shiftless" wife to drive when necessary. Thus the Tippy. Ain't no PDK, but in "Manual" it is fine. I just wish it had permanently positioned real shift paddles like the Maserati.

jerbroo

I'm a new tip-S c2 owner (one week). I would have preferred a 6 speed but this particular car was something could not pass on... Anyhow, I am much happier with it than I expected to be. This is the Tip S, with the steering wheel shifters. It shifts faster than I expected and when I want to drive hard, it does not do anything unexpected. THAT SAID, you have to read about it an how to use it. With Drive selected, it really tries to get into the highest gear it can and there is not much engine braking. It's sluggish in Drive. In position 3, it's more aggressive and there's engine braking like a stick. With the manual mode you can do what you want and the computer will prevent you from shooting yourself in the foot... so to speak. This is all documented in the owners manual. What I don't like is that there feels like a sizable gap between 2 & 3. It's harder to find the perfect gear when you need to keep her revving in the right range... There's significant performance loss comparing tip to stick. The factory says it's about +1 second on the 0-60 time. ...ouch.

johnsiefker

I have a 95 993 with 170k miles with Tip S.
I service it regularly and have loved it as a daily driver. I was alerted a few years ago that when the Tip "goes south", I'll need to get it overhauled or swapped out with another overhauled unit.

Well, that day has come. Left the garage this morning and within a 1/2 mile, it went into neutral. I had no forward gears, only reverse.

Planning to take this car to heaven, so I'm looking for advice on these issues:
1. Shall I overhaul my unit or swap with an already overhauled unit?
2. Who are the best people to overhaul the Tip?
3. How much is this project gonna cost me?

All advice welcome.

Thanks

ntmatter

I'm afraid I can't advise you on costs, but I wouldn't be surprised if many Porsche shops send out the transmission to a specialist. You may save a bit by going to the specialist direct, but I'd balance that against having the right kind of expert remove the unit and reinstall it so that you have better assurance it's done right. Maybe try the local PCA to see if any members have experience or recommendations.

For your first question, I'd stick with the original transmission if at all possible.

993Buddha

Just when I was tiring of the tip's sluggish pull away, thudding changes, etc, I discovered the 3rd gear stick setting. It's a game changer for me, much more agile and responsive. After reading this thread I realise that it is about creep! I would have thought there was another way of solving that rather than dampening the pull-away!? Funny because I had the same on a 997 turbo, and it drove like a merc, pulling off in 2nd until I found the sport button!

What I would like is more info on the 3rd gear stick setting. 1st question stupid...will it ever change automatically to 4th? I'm guessing not but this is quite a shame as it would be a way of making the automatic setting great fun - just stick it in 3 and take off.

Second question...is this setting on purpose to give the auto setting more oomph (which I would have more faith in) or is it just a by product of another function.

Third question: is this extra performance due to the box selecting one of the sportier mappings. Fourth and final question...what is the difference (in mapping terms) between selecting 2nd stick gear setting and is that another different map?

Just putting a sport button in would have saved all this palava and I'm sure tips would be a lot more popular!!

Chris

Dan Snyder

I save drive for the interstate. All other in. Third........world of difference

lucky strike

Interesting thread

So in todays market how much more or less would a 19,000 mile 1997 993 be with a tip?

Is there a good market for the above car?

Thanks, L.S.

jago

i'd say ~20% off manuals.
maybe less of a discount on a really good example.