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From: CA
Thanks again for all the responses. If I get a 993, I'm not planning on using it as a daily driver. I'd likely get a Jetta or something similar for that. Of course the 993 felt old and slow compared to my S4, but I wanted to add that in as the car I'd be coming from for reference. The S is a great car, just sorely lacking personality in my opinion. Much like Porsches, I don't think new Audis are the best. I don't think I have any interest in a 996/997, I'm sure they are great cars in their own way, they just don't do anything for me personally.
Did you all get used to the floor mounted clutch pedal? Maybe it just had a weird feel on the car I drove.
Did you all get used to the floor mounted clutch pedal? Maybe it just had a weird feel on the car I drove.
Drifting
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From: Vancouver BC, Canada
The pedals do initially feel weird, I had the same feeling when I was test driving 993s. But you'll adjust to them pretty quickly, now they feel so normal to me.
You'll grow to appreciate the hard brake pedal feel too (exact opposite of the newer cars), it's like it was designed for heel/toe under hard braking.
If your looking for a car with some personality, then your def headed in the right direction.
You'll grow to appreciate the hard brake pedal feel too (exact opposite of the newer cars), it's like it was designed for heel/toe under hard braking.
If your looking for a car with some personality, then your def headed in the right direction.
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From: Chicago, IL
Thanks again for all the responses. If I get a 993, I'm not planning on using it as a daily driver. I'd likely get a Jetta or something similar for that. Of course the 993 felt old and slow compared to my S4, but I wanted to add that in as the car I'd be coming from for reference. The S is a great car, just sorely lacking personality in my opinion. Much like Porsches, I don't think new Audis are the best. I don't think I have any interest in a 996/997, I'm sure they are great cars in their own way, they just don't do anything for me personally.
Did you all get used to the floor mounted clutch pedal? Maybe it just had a weird feel on the car I drove.
Did you all get used to the floor mounted clutch pedal? Maybe it just had a weird feel on the car I drove.
About the slow part--I appreciate speed a little more now that I have the 993 because I don't have to be breaking the speed limit to feel the speed. The car gives so much rich feedback all the time. I have gotten a few too many tickets in my day so that it is good.
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Be aware that lot of people have had stalling issues with the 95s combined with a RS clutch setup, but very few issues with the 96s up. The RS clutch is a common upgrade when times comes, lighter flywheel makes the car feel more responsive, but the previous generation computer on the 95's does not adjust to the lighter flywheel as well as the 96+ year cars.
I am not sure how much you work you will do yourself vs. a shop. If you are fairly handy, or willing to learn, you can do a lot of maintenance on these cars yourself, both save $$$ and gain an understanding on how these cars work. There is lots of coaching on this site available if you want to do that. If you ant a quite tour under the hood, have a quick browse on my site http://www.pcarworkshop.com
Some of the fix prices show above can be debated. I also would not recommend separating the transmission/engine in the car for first timers or those using jackstands - its too easy to bend the transmission shaft, and the clutch fork shaft is a bear doing it just by feel. Anyways, small points.
Good luck with the search, its a great feeling when you finally find "the" car!
Cheers,
Mike
I am not sure how much you work you will do yourself vs. a shop. If you are fairly handy, or willing to learn, you can do a lot of maintenance on these cars yourself, both save $$$ and gain an understanding on how these cars work. There is lots of coaching on this site available if you want to do that. If you ant a quite tour under the hood, have a quick browse on my site http://www.pcarworkshop.com
Some of the fix prices show above can be debated. I also would not recommend separating the transmission/engine in the car for first timers or those using jackstands - its too easy to bend the transmission shaft, and the clutch fork shaft is a bear doing it just by feel. Anyways, small points.
Good luck with the search, its a great feeling when you finally find "the" car!
Cheers,
Mike
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Good luck with the hunt
I have a 97 guards red 993 and can't get enough of it
Having some oil consumption issues on the car with such low miles, in retrospect I might have been better off picking up a car w a recent top end done and still paid a lot less. I still love the car though
It kills me to see it parked in the garage during all this salt and snow
I have a 97 guards red 993 and can't get enough of it
Having some oil consumption issues on the car with such low miles, in retrospect I might have been better off picking up a car w a recent top end done and still paid a lot less. I still love the car though
It kills me to see it parked in the garage during all this salt and snow
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From: Southern Maryland
There is some really terrific advice here. My 993 is a 97' but I've also had had two 95's.
They are like no other car. This has been true of every rear engined Porsche since the first little 356. These cars have a certain magic. This magic doesn't speak to everyone. Drive the 993, and if it's just a kinda weird car to you, then look elsewhere. If you just can't keep from grinning, well then welcome aboard. You will be part of a great and supportive community and you will soon learn of the slippery slope. We are expensive friends.
They are like no other car. This has been true of every rear engined Porsche since the first little 356. These cars have a certain magic. This magic doesn't speak to everyone. Drive the 993, and if it's just a kinda weird car to you, then look elsewhere. If you just can't keep from grinning, well then welcome aboard. You will be part of a great and supportive community and you will soon learn of the slippery slope. We are expensive friends.
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An awful lot of the info in this thread might scare you off a 993. Here's another reference point. I've had mine 6 years now. Its my daily driver. It will roll over 170,000 miles in the next few months. The motor has never been opened. It still runs 2:36s at Sebring, and a better driver could shave a few off of that.
I have the complete service history since new and input it into a spreadsheet. It seems that even when I think I'm deviating from it, the costs seem to average out at right around $2k per year. That's tires, oil, brakes, preventative component replacements, repairs, ect...I even added in the emissions testing costs for the years it spent in CA, and the gearbox replacement it received @ 75k miles for some reason.
Buy the best car you can find, with the most complete maintenance history. IMHO, complete maintenance history beats lower miles every time. If an owner gets behind the curve on preventative stuff, I think a car could become a nightmare really quickly.
Good luck hunting. It's part of the ownership experience. Took me almost a year to find mine. But it was really fun checking out all those great cars.
I have the complete service history since new and input it into a spreadsheet. It seems that even when I think I'm deviating from it, the costs seem to average out at right around $2k per year. That's tires, oil, brakes, preventative component replacements, repairs, ect...I even added in the emissions testing costs for the years it spent in CA, and the gearbox replacement it received @ 75k miles for some reason.
Buy the best car you can find, with the most complete maintenance history. IMHO, complete maintenance history beats lower miles every time. If an owner gets behind the curve on preventative stuff, I think a car could become a nightmare really quickly.
Good luck hunting. It's part of the ownership experience. Took me almost a year to find mine. But it was really fun checking out all those great cars.
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