Looking for Connecticut shop for top end rebuild
01-08-2013, 10:59 AM
#16
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True but Todd has not indicated where he fills his oil level. If he is overfilling it, then I am not surprised the engine is burning it.
Edit: Deadeye is on it but Quad is correct in that if your oil level is properly filled and its still going through 1 qt every 1K miles, then you will need a topend.
Edit: Deadeye is on it but Quad is correct in that if your oil level is properly filled and its still going through 1 qt every 1K miles, then you will need a topend.
01-08-2013, 11:03 AM
#17
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Thread Starter
True but Todd has not indicated where he fills his oil level. If he is overfilling it, then I am not surprised the engine is burning it.
Edit: Deadeye is on it but Quad is correct in that if your oil level is properly filled and its still going through 1 qt every 1K
miles, then you will need a topend.
Edit: Deadeye is on it but Quad is correct in that if your oil level is properly filled and its still going through 1 qt every 1K
miles, then you will need a topend.
01-08-2013, 11:08 AM
#18
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I actually disagree. Oil burnoff is a bad thing, especially at 500mi/qt. For example, the oil in the combustion chamber firstly lowers the octane of the fuel mixture, which increases the likelihood for detonation. It further will carbon up the combustion chamber, valves, etc resulting in either increased
likelihood of detonation and reduced power. When it gets
really bad, it will start fouling plugs. All that oil in the exhaust
will certainly not do the cats any favors either.
Oil consumptions of that level are almost always indicative of valve guide problems in these cars.
While I think a compression and leakdown test are necessary
here, unfortunately for todd, I think he will need some work in
the fairly near future. The car is
obviously still driveable as is, but at some point, if you want a car
that runs well, you need to address the issue
good luck todd.
also, fwiw, I had a PPI done at
Musante and was fairly pleased with their work...despite not
proceeding with the
car.
likelihood of detonation and reduced power. When it gets
really bad, it will start fouling plugs. All that oil in the exhaust
will certainly not do the cats any favors either.
Oil consumptions of that level are almost always indicative of valve guide problems in these cars.
While I think a compression and leakdown test are necessary
here, unfortunately for todd, I think he will need some work in
the fairly near future. The car is
obviously still driveable as is, but at some point, if you want a car
that runs well, you need to address the issue
good luck todd.
also, fwiw, I had a PPI done at
Musante and was fairly pleased with their work...despite not
proceeding with the
car.
I was considering holding off until the clutch needs work to spare my self the 8 or 10k immedualtly
Do you think i will cause any permanent damage besides the cats if i keep drivin it?
01-08-2013, 11:19 AM
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however
my usage (muchoWOT/extendedtripdigis) / consumption (1/2qt if that) @ 5k later???
scwhing!
hard to argue with that 8-)
01-08-2013, 11:19 AM
#20
Being from around the same area I use Dan and he has been a straight shooting kind guy with me for the car. He recommended for my car to keep the oil almost to the start of the twist on the dipstick, for what it's worth
01-08-2013, 12:06 PM
#22
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Why not have a QUALIFIED mechanic visually inspect the exhaust value guides? You can also check the SAI in two ways. One is an actual volume test using a syncrometer. The other can be done with a Hammer or Porsche System II tester. Secondary air injection short test observing the oxygen sensor voltages.
All of this can be done easily and quickly.
The problem is finding a mechanic that has enough experience to know interpret the visual condition of the value guides and has the test tools.
All of this can be done easily and quickly.
The problem is finding a mechanic that has enough experience to know interpret the visual condition of the value guides and has the test tools.
01-08-2013, 12:33 PM
#24
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Why not have a QUALIFIED mechanic visually inspect the exhaust value guides? You can also check the SAI in two ways. One is an actual volume test using a syncrometer. The other can be done with a Hammer or Porsche System II tester. Secondary air injection short test observing the oxygen
sensor voltages.
All of this can be done easily and quickly.
The problem is finding a
mechanic that has enough
experience to know interpret the
visual condition of the value guides and has the test
tools.
sensor voltages.
All of this can be done easily and quickly.
The problem is finding a
mechanic that has enough
experience to know interpret the
visual condition of the value guides and has the test
tools.
01-08-2013, 12:35 PM
#25
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Thread Starter
01-08-2013, 12:54 PM
#26
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01-08-2013, 12:55 PM
#27
Race Director
Why not have a QUALIFIED mechanic visually inspect the exhaust value guides? You can also check the SAI in two ways. One is an actual volume test using a syncrometer. The other can be done with a Hammer or Porsche System II tester. Secondary air injection short test observing the oxygen sensor voltages.
All of this can be done easily and quickly.
The problem is finding a mechanic that has enough experience to know interpret the visual condition of the value guides and has the test tools.
All of this can be done easily and quickly.
The problem is finding a mechanic that has enough experience to know interpret the visual condition of the value guides and has the test tools.
I think a leakdown is the proper first step here.
yes it will, but only as an indicator. You can have valve guide issues and decent leak down, but typically not vice versa.
01-08-2013, 02:12 PM
#28
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Sorry to hear you may need some major work with so little mileage.
Here's my Dan Jacobs story from the 2011 Watkins Glen Club Race.
I am paddocked near the DJ rig. I was trying some larger tires on the rear of my SC and thought I had the clearance issues solved. When I came in from the first session I could see that I still had rubbing. A friend and I go about "altering" the fenders with a hammer. A few minutes later Dan comes walking up (never met the guy in my life) with a fender rolling tool and says, "here, try this."
Later in the weekend he gives me explicit instructions on how to stop a pesky oil leak so I can get through the weekend without a major project. He could have just as easily offered to fix it for me for what is always (at the track) a hefty fee.
Anyway, he is a standup guy that I would be using if I lived in the area.
Here's my Dan Jacobs story from the 2011 Watkins Glen Club Race.
I am paddocked near the DJ rig. I was trying some larger tires on the rear of my SC and thought I had the clearance issues solved. When I came in from the first session I could see that I still had rubbing. A friend and I go about "altering" the fenders with a hammer. A few minutes later Dan comes walking up (never met the guy in my life) with a fender rolling tool and says, "here, try this."
Later in the weekend he gives me explicit instructions on how to stop a pesky oil leak so I can get through the weekend without a major project. He could have just as easily offered to fix it for me for what is always (at the track) a hefty fee.
Anyway, he is a standup guy that I would be using if I lived in the area.
01-08-2013, 03:28 PM
#29
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I have used Dan for alignments on my 996 and 993TT. I will not go anywhere else. One of my toe links was worn out on the TT when doing an alignment and he had a spare in stock to clean my car up. I would use him more if he was not 1 1/2 hr away from me.
01-08-2013, 03:35 PM
#30
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Thanks everyone,
I have scheduled an apointment with dans shop for the 29 th
I will keep u all posted, wish me luck
P.S.Fister Stage IIIs just arrived via UPS
CANT WAIT TO POP THOSE BABIES ON
I have scheduled an apointment with dans shop for the 29 th
I will keep u all posted, wish me luck
P.S.Fister Stage IIIs just arrived via UPS
CANT WAIT TO POP THOSE BABIES ON