Now that I have a 993...what next?
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Hi
Congratulations on your purchase and nice looking car.
I did a fair bit of suspension work through Rothsport Racing six months ago (on my '98 C2S). I went the PSS10 route with quite a bit of RS parts (tie-rods, strut brace, motor mounts, etc) and also Walrods. The car is definitely stiff but rides like it's on rails so I'm happy with it. I've got Fister Stage IIs which are a fair balance considering I live in a neighborhood and often leave in the early morning (I think they're plenty loud).
Please let me know if you have specific questions on my set-up and I can dig up the paperwork.
Have fun!
A
Congratulations on your purchase and nice looking car.
I did a fair bit of suspension work through Rothsport Racing six months ago (on my '98 C2S). I went the PSS10 route with quite a bit of RS parts (tie-rods, strut brace, motor mounts, etc) and also Walrods. The car is definitely stiff but rides like it's on rails so I'm happy with it. I've got Fister Stage IIs which are a fair balance considering I live in a neighborhood and often leave in the early morning (I think they're plenty loud).
Please let me know if you have specific questions on my set-up and I can dig up the paperwork.
Have fun!
A
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Cool...thanks to all the responses.
I think I am going to go with the Fister exhaust since there seems to be a lot of positive feedback on the boards...just have to determine do I go stg II or III.
Also, I saw PSS10 for about 2400. Is that the going price? If so, then I have no issue with getting them at that price.
Thanks again,
Steve
I think I am going to go with the Fister exhaust since there seems to be a lot of positive feedback on the boards...just have to determine do I go stg II or III.
Also, I saw PSS10 for about 2400. Is that the going price? If so, then I have no issue with getting them at that price.
Thanks again,
Steve
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Congrats on the new purchase! How about enjoying your car as is for a while before dropping thousands on upgrades LOL Even at their age they are still pretty amazing machines bone stock.
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swesna We have a kit that includes everything thing shown in the picture below. Click Here for more information and to see our pricing. Look forward to see what you do with it.
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swesna We have a kit that includes everything thing shown in the picture below. Click Here for more information and to see our pricing. Look forward to see what you do with it.
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One thing I can say it gets better gas mileage than my Audi RS4. That AWD tank gets about 10 mpg around town. But has some good snow tires on it just waiting for the snow to come.
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I'm continuously amazed at this. A newbie comes in with a million ideas and advice flows. Nobody seems to ask the most important question. Why upgrade? What is it that OP wants to do with the car and what does the car lack to do so today?
Months and, literally, tens of thousands of dollars later the poor newbie ends up with cat-less car with Stage 3, rough suspension set way too low, metal floor mats, tupperware all around with assorted lunch table sized spoilers, tramlining and bump-steering due to the skinny sidewall tires... you get the picture.
Leave the car alone. Drive it. See what it is you want to do and state it honestly to yourself and others. There's plenty of great advise here. But any advise can only help if you are honest and clear with yourself regarding the intentions for this particular car.
Months and, literally, tens of thousands of dollars later the poor newbie ends up with cat-less car with Stage 3, rough suspension set way too low, metal floor mats, tupperware all around with assorted lunch table sized spoilers, tramlining and bump-steering due to the skinny sidewall tires... you get the picture.
Leave the car alone. Drive it. See what it is you want to do and state it honestly to yourself and others. There's plenty of great advise here. But any advise can only help if you are honest and clear with yourself regarding the intentions for this particular car.
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Did I miss it...or is there a good reason we don't have any pics yet...![ducking](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon107.gif)
On the less important subject...I agree that the suspension is the best first place to start your mods...chances are pretty good that the stock Monroe shocks are in need of replacement anyway. Followed closely by a Fister II.
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On the less important subject...I agree that the suspension is the best first place to start your mods...chances are pretty good that the stock Monroe shocks are in need of replacement anyway. Followed closely by a Fister II.
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Did I miss it...or is there a good reason we don't have any pics yet...![ducking](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon107.gif)
On the less important subject...I agree that the suspension is the best first place to start your mods...chances are pretty good that the stock Monroe shocks are in need of replacement anyway. Followed closely by a Fister II.
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On the less important subject...I agree that the suspension is the best first place to start your mods...chances are pretty good that the stock Monroe shocks are in need of replacement anyway. Followed closely by a Fister II.
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I'm continuously amazed at this. A newbie comes in with a million ideas and advice flows. Nobody seems to ask the most important question. Why upgrade? What is it that OP wants to do with the car and what does the car lack to do so today?
Months and, literally, tens of thousands of dollars later the poor newbie ends up with cat-less car with Stage 3, rough suspension set way too low, metal floor mats, tupperware all around with assorted lunch table sized spoilers, tramlining and bump-steering due to the skinny sidewall tires... you get the picture.
Leave the car alone. Drive it. See what it is you want to do and state it honestly to yourself and others. There's plenty of great advise here. But any advise can only help if you are honest and clear with yourself regarding the intentions for this particular car.
Months and, literally, tens of thousands of dollars later the poor newbie ends up with cat-less car with Stage 3, rough suspension set way too low, metal floor mats, tupperware all around with assorted lunch table sized spoilers, tramlining and bump-steering due to the skinny sidewall tires... you get the picture.
Leave the car alone. Drive it. See what it is you want to do and state it honestly to yourself and others. There's plenty of great advise here. But any advise can only help if you are honest and clear with yourself regarding the intentions for this particular car.
I have halted the mod game on the 08 Audi RS4 as I dont see the value in over modding the car. ie you will never get out what you put into it plus I dont think the $/hp ratio is worth it. Got this one 09/2011.
I might be selling my 964 to someone if that happens then I will do some mods to the 993. I dont think the PSS10/Springs and Fister Stg II are too over the top and the Fister mod is easy to revert back. I bought the 993 bc it was better than having my money sitting in the bank, got it last week Dec. 2012.
If I dont sell the 964...them I will hold off on the 993 and pretty much drop the engine out of the beater and get busy. The beater is decent but has a good amt of oil leaks that I want to repair, plus give it a tune up and do some powder coating. This was suppose to be my DE/Street car which I bought in Oct 2012.
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regardless of mileage, age alone dictates that the stock suspension is in need of replacement.
I have the H&R SS set up on my 4S-a complete coilover setup(strut's & springs w/helpers) with H&R sways front and rear. The front struts have monoballs also...This is a very popular it seems in the NJ area, my car was serviced at Protosport by the PO.
I would definately research this setup
coilover kit #RSS1590AA, sway # 71953. Now this is for a C4S, the awd and WB might make a difference.
so..suspension of your choosing
DEFINATELY walrod front control arm bushings
consider new motor mounts too. Even if your's are not broken or sagging, new RS or Wevo mounts will tighten up the car.
Proper alignment and corner balance after is a must also.
Where does the car sit regarding the upcoming 60K service? You should consider getting the dizzy belt replaced along with all the other 60K stuff.
I vote Stage lll's, or maybe Stage l's and the 200 cell cat.
Welcome aboard
I have the H&R SS set up on my 4S-a complete coilover setup(strut's & springs w/helpers) with H&R sways front and rear. The front struts have monoballs also...This is a very popular it seems in the NJ area, my car was serviced at Protosport by the PO.
I would definately research this setup
coilover kit #RSS1590AA, sway # 71953. Now this is for a C4S, the awd and WB might make a difference.
so..suspension of your choosing
DEFINATELY walrod front control arm bushings
consider new motor mounts too. Even if your's are not broken or sagging, new RS or Wevo mounts will tighten up the car.
Proper alignment and corner balance after is a must also.
Where does the car sit regarding the upcoming 60K service? You should consider getting the dizzy belt replaced along with all the other 60K stuff.
I vote Stage lll's, or maybe Stage l's and the 200 cell cat.
Welcome aboard
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regardless of mileage, age alone dictates that the stock suspension is in need of replacement.
I have the H&R SS set up on my 4S-a complete coilover setup(strut's & springs w/helpers) with H&R sways front and rear. The front struts have monoballs also...This is a very popular it seems in the NJ area, my car was serviced at Protosport by the PO.
I would definately research this setup
coilover kit #RSS1590AA, sway # 71953. Now this is for a C4S, the awd and WB might make a difference.
so..suspension of your choosing
DEFINATELY walrod front control arm bushings
consider new motor mounts too. Even if your's are not broken or sagging, new RS or Wevo mounts will tighten up the car.
Proper alignment and corner balance after is a must also.
Where does the car sit regarding the upcoming 60K service? You should consider getting the dizzy belt replaced along with all the other 60K stuff.
I vote Stage lll's, or maybe Stage l's and the 200 cell cat.
Welcome aboard
I have the H&R SS set up on my 4S-a complete coilover setup(strut's & springs w/helpers) with H&R sways front and rear. The front struts have monoballs also...This is a very popular it seems in the NJ area, my car was serviced at Protosport by the PO.
I would definately research this setup
coilover kit #RSS1590AA, sway # 71953. Now this is for a C4S, the awd and WB might make a difference.
so..suspension of your choosing
DEFINATELY walrod front control arm bushings
consider new motor mounts too. Even if your's are not broken or sagging, new RS or Wevo mounts will tighten up the car.
Proper alignment and corner balance after is a must also.
Where does the car sit regarding the upcoming 60K service? You should consider getting the dizzy belt replaced along with all the other 60K stuff.
I vote Stage lll's, or maybe Stage l's and the 200 cell cat.
Welcome aboard
Thank you very much.
Steve
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I've never tried the PSS10, so nothing to compare too.
In my case, I would have no reason, or desire to make multiple little fidigity adjustments front to rear for dampening. Tire pressure changes, tire wear, and road conditions add enough into the mix for my feeble little brain to handle.
That being said, this set-up is spot on for me...my car rides very nice-better than my wife's 2012 Mini Countryman with those damn run-flats...maybe even as good with the winter wheelset on the Mini too. I do have some slight bump steer, but nothing too excessive. A future mod for me is definately RS parts to correct that...got it all written down somewhere.
As far as a comparison, lots of PSS9 & 10 owners on here, not many H&R owners IIRC.