993 involved in a flood - need some guidance
12-07-2012, 07:06 PM
#16
I hope this is because your financial means is beyond imagination.
Maybe goofballdeluxe does know something I don't.
12-07-2012, 07:23 PM
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12-07-2012, 10:26 PM
#20
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Well. Does the car start now? If it does, leave it alone and replace things as they break down. Make sure you take the seats out, take all the carpets out and dry as much of the underneath foam as you can (easier said than done). Wash the exposed metal in the trunk. Depending on where you are you might have gotten mostly fresh water in the car so it's not as bad. For assorted electronic controllers eBay is your friend. Just be aware of the fact that there 3 different ECUs and 2 different door lock boxes fro '95. They are not really compatible with each other, make sure you are buying _exact_ part numbers.
As far as insurance, I believe NYS allows comprehensive-only insurance on stored cars. Cheap and easy. I wish MA allowed that.
As far as insurance, I believe NYS allows comprehensive-only insurance on stored cars. Cheap and easy. I wish MA allowed that.
12-07-2012, 11:44 PM
#21
My heart goes out to the owner and I wouldn't wish this on any 993.
That said, I hope it is declared a salvage car. Anything else would be fraud. I can't imagine the nightmare for any future unsuspecting owner.
That said, I hope it is declared a salvage car. Anything else would be fraud. I can't imagine the nightmare for any future unsuspecting owner.
12-08-2012, 12:48 AM
#22
Glad that nothing worse happened.
I cannot speak for whether or not the car is drivable still. I've read there are tiny areas the saltwater can get into.
If you do want to save the car, I would remove the interior immediately. Everything. Don a mask and respirator to protect from any mold that has grown in it. Anything fabric is toast likely. And completely disassemble everything that would've been in contact with the water. Then hose down the result with regular water, scrub interior. Or, as somebody suggested somewhere, submerge the car in someone's pool via crane. You could probably just submerge it up to a little above where the water rose.
At the very least, you can buy it back and clean it up. Maybe gut it, and and save it as a sculpturouse memento.
As a last resort to fix it, and if you have nothing better to spend on, you could surely send it out to have a frame-off (of course a misnomer with these cars, but you get it) restoration. You could maybe send the shell to Porsche to have it cleaned, all 'hidden areas' inspected or replaced, then have the shell re-galvanized. Galvanizing is a process that is only possible in a sterile environment with facilities just for that purpose. Keep in mind something like that (the frame-off resto and chassis repair) would probably cost ten times the value of your average used 993.
Good luck.
Sorry to hear about this, but glad that you, your family and hopefully your house are okay.
Take care!
I cannot speak for whether or not the car is drivable still. I've read there are tiny areas the saltwater can get into.
If you do want to save the car, I would remove the interior immediately. Everything. Don a mask and respirator to protect from any mold that has grown in it. Anything fabric is toast likely. And completely disassemble everything that would've been in contact with the water. Then hose down the result with regular water, scrub interior. Or, as somebody suggested somewhere, submerge the car in someone's pool via crane. You could probably just submerge it up to a little above where the water rose.
At the very least, you can buy it back and clean it up. Maybe gut it, and and save it as a sculpturouse memento.
As a last resort to fix it, and if you have nothing better to spend on, you could surely send it out to have a frame-off (of course a misnomer with these cars, but you get it) restoration. You could maybe send the shell to Porsche to have it cleaned, all 'hidden areas' inspected or replaced, then have the shell re-galvanized. Galvanizing is a process that is only possible in a sterile environment with facilities just for that purpose. Keep in mind something like that (the frame-off resto and chassis repair) would probably cost ten times the value of your average used 993.
Good luck.
Sorry to hear about this, but glad that you, your family and hopefully your house are okay.
Take care!
12-08-2012, 02:40 AM
#23
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Well I'd strip everything out of the car that would have been soaked in Salt Water and then rinse off and scrub the car. Then I'd buy all of the parts you need used especially the electronics that would be impacted. Electronics in floods will continue to be a nightmare for years to come and it will frustrate the heck out of you.
Good luck!
12-08-2012, 10:16 AM
#24
Nordschleife Master
Before scrubbing everything with clean water, I'd start looking for an auto paint shop with a drying booth that would let you roll the car in for a few hours to dry it out afterwards ... I bet there's a few around there that would love to rent you their booth to make some extra cash.
12-08-2012, 12:35 PM
#26
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Back to the car. It can be made new again and for very little cost if you are willing to put your time into it. I have taken vehicles that look terrible and had OMG comments after I was done.
12-08-2012, 01:56 PM
#27
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Get the insurance company to declare it a salvage car. Take the money. Buy the car from insurance company for a few $K. Start praying.
What most likely will need to be replaced are: ECU, central locking unit, ABS controller, all carpets, cardboard door cards, possibly seats. The bigger issues will start showing up later. Little things like rusted shifter linkages, dead starter, exhaust rusted from inside out, etc. At least at this point you'll have a 993 that's worth what you've paid your insurance company. Which should be less than $10K.
What most likely will need to be replaced are: ECU, central locking unit, ABS controller, all carpets, cardboard door cards, possibly seats. The bigger issues will start showing up later. Little things like rusted shifter linkages, dead starter, exhaust rusted from inside out, etc. At least at this point you'll have a 993 that's worth what you've paid your insurance company. Which should be less than $10K.
Salt water immersion affects the wiring harnesses as well as the control units and should ALL be replaced, IMHO to have a reliable car again and that's not cost effective unless you do all the work yourself.
12-08-2012, 09:19 PM
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