Guidance requested - a "low cost" 993 in my future?
09-11-2012, 02:42 PM
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Then... GO FOR IT!!! It could easily, EASILY cost you over $10k in repairs in 3 years. You won't care. You'll be smiling so hard your face will hurt. You'll be driving a go kart, not a regular car like a big BMW. These cars are fun, happy, sh*t eating grin cars.
Can't wait to hear back from you after you get yours. Despite the problems I've had with mine, I wouldn't want to trade it for anything else... right now.
Can't wait to hear back from you after you get yours. Despite the problems I've had with mine, I wouldn't want to trade it for anything else... right now.
09-11-2012, 03:08 PM
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I would like to add to this the possibility that MAYBE the 993 is holding its value now due to the older generations that are familiar with the car and appreciate the uniqueness of it. Newer generations will probably not care about it being air cooled and whatnot so they would rather get a more comfortable/reliable(?) 996 or 997 because that is what they grew up or are more familiar with.
09-13-2012, 12:04 PM
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I'm talking about the average Joe, more or less
And we're still not there yet, I think this might happen when the newer generations from the 80s and 90s will be in their 40s and 50s.
09-13-2012, 02:27 PM
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If I ever decided to purchase a 997 or 991, it would be in addition to my 993. I prefer the old school feel of the 993s when compared to the newer models. There is just something special about driving a 993.
09-13-2012, 04:49 PM
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That's me!! I appreciate the hell out of the 993s. It has been my dream car since I was 15 in 1995. I feel very lucky to own this particular car.
If I ever decided to purchase a 997 or 991, it would be in addition to my 993. I prefer the old school feel of the 993s when compared to the newer models. There is just something special about driving a 993.
If I ever decided to purchase a 997 or 991, it would be in addition to my 993. I prefer the old school feel of the 993s when compared to the newer models. There is just something special about driving a 993.
09-13-2012, 05:43 PM
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What is with all the super-young 993 owners these days? I think more 993 owners (especially Turbos) seem to be in the under-30 crowd. It took me 2 decades of 911 ownership to build up to my Turbo. I applaud your taste in cars!
You are right thought, the "real" young people these days treat cars like a black box, and do not have the gear sense that most of us Rennlisters have. This could be better for the environment anyways, not sure. However, there still are gear-heads in each generation, it just a declining number.
Cheers,
Mike
You are right thought, the "real" young people these days treat cars like a black box, and do not have the gear sense that most of us Rennlisters have. This could be better for the environment anyways, not sure. However, there still are gear-heads in each generation, it just a declining number.
Cheers,
Mike
09-13-2012, 05:49 PM
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That's me!! I appreciate the hell out of the 993s. It has been my dream car since I was 15 in 1995. I feel very lucky to own this particular car.
If I ever decided to purchase a 997 or 991, it would be in addition to my 993. I prefer the old school feel of the 993s when compared to the newer models. There is just something special about driving a 993.
If I ever decided to purchase a 997 or 991, it would be in addition to my 993. I prefer the old school feel of the 993s when compared to the newer models. There is just something special about driving a 993.
On a related note, I'll +1 your post. I was 17 in 1995 but the 993 was definitely my dream car and I'm really enjoying mine. Although it isn't my first Porsche and I actually started out with a newer 997.
09-13-2012, 09:12 PM
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What is with all the super-young 993 owners these days? I think more 993 owners (especially Turbos) seem to be in the under-30 crowd. It took me 2 decades of 911 ownership to build up to my Turbo. I applaud your taste in cars!
You are right thought, the "real" young people these days treat cars like a black box, and do not have the gear sense that most of us Rennlisters have. This could be better for the environment anyways, not sure. However, there still are gear-heads in each generation, it just a declining number.
You are right thought, the "real" young people these days treat cars like a black box, and do not have the gear sense that most of us Rennlisters have. This could be better for the environment anyways, not sure. However, there still are gear-heads in each generation, it just a declining number.
I bought my first 911 one year out of college. It was an '84 3.2L Carrera that I purchased for a measly $10,000. My PPI mechanic couldn't believe the deal I wrangled. All my young friends seemed to appreciate it and wondered how I could afford it in grad school. Heh. I always evaded the question of price whenever it came up.
After it was hit by a drunk driver 4 months back (10 years after buying the 3.2 Carrera), I bought my high milage 993 for a little more than the insurance settlement (for an amazing $17,000, another rockin' deal IMO) from the original owner with all records and original paint. I found it through my wrench. It's in beautiful condition, by the way, aside from the gremlins I mentioned earlier. Fortunately, I can use the money I saved by buying at such a bargain price to chase gremlins and even rebuild the engine or transmission if need be. Me = one thrilled 993 owner ... for an original investment of $10,000!
I always admired 911s as a kid in the 80's and then in the 90's as young buck. There was no other option for me. As soon as I could afford it, I bought my dream car.
09-13-2012, 09:28 PM
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I started out in a humble used '93 300ZX. A great car, but I always had an eye for a P-car, just couldn't afford/justify it at 20.
09-14-2012, 12:02 PM
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I sold my 993 right as the depreciation curve started to level out. The guy that bought it from me (in 2002 or so) still has it, and since he hasn't put a whole lot of miles on it he could sell it for nearly what he paid me for it.
That said, expecting a car this old and not all that rare to appreciate is a pipe dream. Really nice low mileage examples with a high price, such as the one currently in the Rennlist classifieds, don't sell quickly. I suspect that average high mileage examples don't sell quickly either.
Buy the car because it's what you want, not because you think you can avoid depreciation.
That said, expecting a car this old and not all that rare to appreciate is a pipe dream. Really nice low mileage examples with a high price, such as the one currently in the Rennlist classifieds, don't sell quickly. I suspect that average high mileage examples don't sell quickly either.
Buy the car because it's what you want, not because you think you can avoid depreciation.
09-14-2012, 12:59 PM
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Then... GO FOR IT!!! It could easily, EASILY cost you over $10k in repairs in 3 years. You won't care. You'll be smiling so hard your face will hurt. You'll be driving a go kart, not a regular car like a big BMW. These cars are fun, happy, sh*t eating grin cars.
Can't wait to hear back from you after you get yours. Despite the problems I've had with mine, I wouldn't want to trade it for anything else... right now.
Can't wait to hear back from you after you get yours. Despite the problems I've had with mine, I wouldn't want to trade it for anything else... right now.
you mean... ?
I'm now tempted, to consider, a car with better A/C, better stereo, more comfortable seats, Nav built in, not as classic body style but I've seen worse, etc, etc. Was curious so started looking at 2006-2007 997's (S's and 4S's). Found a 1997 dark grey/blk S coupe near me with 40k miles for $49k - Tiptronic. Yes, Tiptronic. DC traffic blows! Warranty till 9/13 from Porsche.
Found a 2006 silver/blk 4S coupe for $52k (these are simply asking prices), 6 spd. 48k mi.
I doubt I'll even look at one, but it's on my mind.
Found a 2006 silver/blk 4S coupe for $52k (these are simply asking prices), 6 spd. 48k mi.
I doubt I'll even look at one, but it's on my mind.
09-14-2012, 02:45 PM
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Don't make the mistake of buying a 993 that hasn't had a suspension upgrade or budget $2K-$3K to swap out the crappy factory Monroes right away. Based on this thread it sounds like you enjloy the driving experience. The Monroes need replaced with Bilsteins or you will never get close to the feedback the car can provide during a spirted run.
