993 windshield rust
08-30-2012, 04:23 AM
#16
Just had mine done, there was no sign of any rust until the screen came out, then it was bad!
I knew we had a problem as there was water inside the front footwell.
When the screen was removed, took 4 minutes to get out, normally takes 30!, there was alot of rot, new pieces needed to welded in
Mine had had a replaced screen about 7 years ago, done very badly
I think most of the rust is caused by damage when the old screen is cut out.
Even if there is no rust showing, unlike the OP pic, there can be some serious trouble underneath
It was a good excuse to replace the screen, fit a turbo S front spoiler and get the whole front of the car painted!
I knew we had a problem as there was water inside the front footwell.
When the screen was removed, took 4 minutes to get out, normally takes 30!, there was alot of rot, new pieces needed to welded in
Mine had had a replaced screen about 7 years ago, done very badly
I think most of the rust is caused by damage when the old screen is cut out.
Even if there is no rust showing, unlike the OP pic, there can be some serious trouble underneath
It was a good excuse to replace the screen, fit a turbo S front spoiler and get the whole front of the car painted!
08-30-2012, 11:46 AM
#17
Nordschleife Master
Couple of points....
3. It's not expensive. Sunset sells the glass for $775 and (at least where I had it done, a well-known glass specialist) the install was around $250. Assuming you get the glass from Sunset, there's no reason this should be much more than a $1K job. It doesn't take that long -- aside from cure time, it's a couple hours of labor max. In your case of couse this will be different because of the rust.
3. It's not expensive. Sunset sells the glass for $775 and (at least where I had it done, a well-known glass specialist) the install was around $250. Assuming you get the glass from Sunset, there's no reason this should be much more than a $1K job. It doesn't take that long -- aside from cure time, it's a couple hours of labor max. In your case of couse this will be different because of the rust.
08-31-2012, 05:04 AM
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Interesting the experiences people have with windscreen installers.
I think there are good and bad installers,
but I also think that some people can see the difference between a good windscreen installation or not.
I have seen some windscreen installations in the last month that are a absolute joke, I don't believe someone can do such a bad job, but interesting, most owners are happy with the results, so I say nothing and smile.
So beware of installing new front and back windows in you precious 993's, it can be a real nightmare.
Good Luck,
I think there are good and bad installers,
but I also think that some people can see the difference between a good windscreen installation or not.
I have seen some windscreen installations in the last month that are a absolute joke, I don't believe someone can do such a bad job, but interesting, most owners are happy with the results, so I say nothing and smile.
So beware of installing new front and back windows in you precious 993's, it can be a real nightmare.
Good Luck,
08-31-2012, 02:41 PM
#21
Race Director
08-31-2012, 03:16 PM
#22
I think that's the typical method but the paint match has to be perfect. Also, I've been told that MOST rust is caused by improper windshield removal when somebody uses a blade to cut through the sealants and also cuts through the paint and primer coats .. then just puts the new windshield over the exposed metal ...
The bodyshop I chose to fix the rust in 2007 ended up giving me a new OEM windshield because they couldn't get the leaking stopped after the repair. The new one leaked too. I attribute all leaking to a poor install. It took about a year before the leaking was finally corrected.
This summer I saw a leak in the same front corner where everything started. Since the bodyshop warrantied the work, I took it back. When they removed the windshield, they noticed that some primer from the prior work was poorly done and not properly adhering. They now have a new glass installer. They did a lot of leak testing after the reinstallation and things seem ok. Time will tell. The installer also dinged the cowl paint along the way so that has been resprayed and looks great with no blending issues.
Meanwhile, I had been watching a slowing expanding area of rust at the right rear corner. I found (another) well-recommended shop that repaired the rear a few weeks ago. They used a different and strongly recommended glass guy, who said the rear glass (referencing JPP's quote above) was definitely original. All the rear rust was surface. But, in addition to the spot visible at the right rear beyond the molding, removing the molding also revealed a three inch strip in the center and a small spot on the left corner. The paint was blended toward the roof and looks perfect. And, for the first time in 10 years, the rear glass doesn't rattle.
Last edited by JimPA; 08-31-2012 at 03:35 PM.
