Koni FSD's installed
05-30-2012, 12:48 PM
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05-30-2012, 02:43 PM
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Here is a picture of Rintys car before and after Koni install with M033 Springs.Doesn't look much lower than stock to me.
Rin,I think you said this was ok to post your pictures to
Rin,I think you said this was ok to post your pictures to
05-31-2012, 11:28 AM
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That's fine, and they've been posted before.
It's hard to tell from the photos, but the front tire to fender lip went from 4 1/2 fingers to 3 fingers, and the rear, from about 3 1/2 to 2. IIRC.
It's hard to tell from the photos, but the front tire to fender lip went from 4 1/2 fingers to 3 fingers, and the rear, from about 3 1/2 to 2. IIRC.
Last edited by Rinty; 06-01-2012 at 01:25 AM. Reason: changed # of fingers
05-31-2012, 05:04 PM
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There was some threads a while ago about problems with the FSD's regarding their ability to take a lower stance (given a shorter spring) since the major stroke area was deeper into the shock, as well as questions if the shocks are tuned to various springs, such as the M030's. At that time, I think the issue was raised with Koni - did they address it?
From the Koni North America site...
FSD kit must be used with stock height suspension.
And what "stock ride height"are they referring to, US or ROW?
06-03-2012, 12:19 PM
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...having Konis not as attractive....MikeJ
I think Koni is seen by most enthusiasts as a better shock than Munroe.
I think an enthusiast who is looking for Bilsteins on a 993 is probably going to want a car with M030s or equivalent, rather than M033s.
So for an average buyer, I don't think it would matter much.
JMO
06-03-2012, 05:58 PM
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Wouldn't the newer Koni FSD type damper set be viewed as a higher quality OEM (Monroe) replacement? Not quite the same as a move to coil-overs, PSS10s, etc. Independent of the 993 spring set type (ROW M033 or ROW M030) is the FSD damper's performance somewhere between the Bilstein B6 & B8 dampers?
Stock dampers,,,, but different. Kinda sorta yeah....
I'll be making the Koni FSD move shortly.
Stock dampers,,,, but different. Kinda sorta yeah....
I'll be making the Koni FSD move shortly.
06-03-2012, 06:35 PM
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06-03-2012, 09:15 PM
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Hmm, I think the most enthusiasts think Bilstein is THE shock for Porsches - I agree there is a market for putting them only because of price. If a HD Bilstein and a Koni had exactly the same price, I think that most people would go for the Bilstein.
I think that the open public would not care which shocks are in the car, but enthusiasts are looking for Bilstein HD's, PSS-9' s and PSS-10's. This is of course all opinion since we have no proof either way... LOL!
However, if cost is an concern, then these shocks may be the ticket. However, looking at the pictures, the bottom spring perch looks a bit weak, and the diameter of the shock rods is certainly much less than the PSS series, which almost consumes the entire shock body. I guess I should expect that given the 2x-3x the cost.
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Mike
I think that the open public would not care which shocks are in the car, but enthusiasts are looking for Bilstein HD's, PSS-9' s and PSS-10's. This is of course all opinion since we have no proof either way... LOL!
However, if cost is an concern, then these shocks may be the ticket. However, looking at the pictures, the bottom spring perch looks a bit weak, and the diameter of the shock rods is certainly much less than the PSS series, which almost consumes the entire shock body. I guess I should expect that given the 2x-3x the cost.
Cheers,
Mike
06-04-2012, 01:11 AM
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Hmm, I think the most enthusiasts think Bilstein is THE shock for Porsches - I agree there is a market for putting them only because of price. If a HD Bilstein and a Koni had exactly the same price, I think that most people would go for the Bilstein.
I think that the open public would not care which shocks are in the car, but enthusiasts are looking for Bilstein HD's, PSS-9' s and PSS-10's. This is of course all opinion since we have no proof either way... LOL!
I think that the open public would not care which shocks are in the car, but enthusiasts are looking for Bilstein HD's, PSS-9' s and PSS-10's. This is of course all opinion since we have no proof either way... LOL!
I personally hate Bilstein HDs and went out of my way to avoid them when shopping for my second 993. A while back, I installed a set on my 95 and quickly exchanged them for KW V3s. Huge improvement. The HDs had way too much compression dampening. Felt like they were valved for an 8000lb garbage truck.
I've found Konis to be preferable to Bilsteins not only on Porsches but BMWs too.
Just my opinion.
Cheers,
Joe
06-04-2012, 02:17 AM
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06-04-2012, 02:27 AM
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No, just the Bilstein HDs and Sports.
I'm sure the PSS system coilovers are better. However, I chose the KW V3s over PSS because they are double adjustable (compression and rebound). And if I'm honest, I would have been really pissed at myself if I didn't like the PSS either and had to pull another set of Bilsteins off my car
Cheers,
Joe
I'm sure the PSS system coilovers are better. However, I chose the KW V3s over PSS because they are double adjustable (compression and rebound). And if I'm honest, I would have been really pissed at myself if I didn't like the PSS either and had to pull another set of Bilsteins off my car
Cheers,
Joe
