luial

Interested. Email sent

ofd

Great deal. That's about the price to build a good box.
Buy this, sell the box in the car you own, and for $4 K
you have the best mod for a 993.


Cheers,
Geoff

cabrio993

wow...it's like a fine piece of jewelery. I would hang it from my neck if it wasn't that heavy. GLWS

boulderbobo

It's like waiting for the elevator to arrive.

77'3.6vram

Second gear must be addressed for a primarily driven street car. Anyone who has looked into this modification knows that this box was built on a budget. Most 993 owners that are going to go to all the trouble of changing out there gearing are going to know this and will spend the extra 2k to build it right. Going back in, after the fact, is going to cost at least 3 to 4 thousand dollars.

NP993

Fiddlesticks. The RS 2nd ratio is almost identical to the stock 2nd ratio. The difference in the RS box is that 1st is taller and 3rd is shorter (and of course, 4, 5, and 6 are shorter as well). To get the taller 1st, on all but the earliest boxes, you have to buy the RS mainshaft plus 1st and 2nd gears -- much more than $2K. If you want to spend thousands to get less RPM drop between 1st and 2nd, go for it. But I skipped that part of the regear and am glad I did.

You also, for example, don't need to put steel syncros on a mostly street gearbox. Lots of different ways to do the re-gear depending on one's preferences -- there's no "right" way to do it.

77'3.6vram

You know what they say about opinions, everybody has one. You do not need a RS main. You can buy an used early 993 or 964 where first and second are separate. I have seen them on eBay for under $1500.00 There is a reason everyone has made the second gear
comment. The difference between 2.000 and 2.048 is more significant than you might think.

NP993

Right -- but again, we're talking about ~$2K for the main, then the cost of 1st and 2nd, plus the cost of the rest of the regear. By doing it this way, the cost basically doubles, all to get a taller 1st gear -- a gear that's only used to pull away from stop signs. Entirely IMHO, but to me, it's a waste of money. To each his own, of course.

On the 2nd gear ratios -- redline MPH for 2.000 is 72.2, and for 2.048 is 70.6 -- a difference of 1.6 MPH. In other words, undetectable.

eric523

Yeah and they don't really need to be in the for sale thread about how we spec'd our box "on a budget". My opinion is this box was built for road course racing. Our home track has over 100mph average speed. If you want to run autocross or race street light to light in 1st or 2nd gear, this may not be the box for you.
Money was spent were it was needed, not excessively where it was not. This is not a cheap or budget box by any stretch. High quality parts, high quality builder, spec'd for a specific usage.

GTgears

There's opinions and then there are facts. The fact is that is someone followed your advice and went and bought a 964 mainshaft on Ebay for their 993 gearbox they would be screwed because the 964 is a G50 5spd gearbox.

KaiB

Matt and Eric, don't even waste your time with this guy...ain't worth the effort.

GTgears

Don't worry about me. My momma taught me that if I feel like arguing with a fool that I may as well just go look in the mirror. But I do appreciate the heads up since it seems there may be some history here that I know nothing about.

I'm just making sure that one of the many lurkers who read but don't post here doesn't accidentally go buy the wrong mainshaft based on bad data posted in the interwebs.

KaiB

Gottchya 100%.

Gramroth did my current tranny and will do the next...we all know who's steel is inside. When, next year, we do up the 3.8 RSR build, and he does up a 6 speed for me (w/ GT gears and LSD, of course), the current close 5 speed will be sold - and the new owner will get many miles out of it.

GTgears

It's a shame you can't grab this one. The LSD, gears, and steel synchros alone cost $8000+ new.

KaiB

Came very close to it, but the timing just isn't right, and I would re-gear it anyway...it's very close, but not perfect for the tracks I abuse.