coreseller

Hey Guys. Quick question on wiring in my new Blaupunkt Toronto 410 BT with Bluetooth. Long story short; recently purchased a 993 with a hideous Sony aftermarket unit installed by prior owner a few months prior to the sale (OE radio was dead), the install shop cut out original harness so I'm working with wires. I've got everything sorted power, ground, auto antenna and F & R speaker wise. In hooking up the new Blaupunkt it has a couple of connections that I don't think I need be using (Sub Out and Sub Out Ground since I will not be using a Sub) but there are a couple I think I'll need; "Illumination" and "Radio Mute". The directions that came with the new radio didn't address these connections. Any ideas what they are for and which wire I should connect these to? Thanks in advance for any help......Mark.

911Dave

I was just reviewing the 993 wiring diagram yesterday because I'm getting ready to install a 4 year old Blaupunkt Montreal. Here is the wiring information for the original wiring harness for a CR-210 with hi-fi option:

White/Red Stripe = speedo input for speed-dependent variable volume
White = antenna amplifier turn-on signal
Red/Black = Hot (+) switched
Brown = ground
Red = Hot (+) constant
Grey/Blue = Illumination (from cabin light switch)

If you have/had the telephone option as well, there are a bunch of Yellow/Black wires included in the harness in addition to the above.

The Montreal that I'm going to install doesn't have corresponding inputs for the factory illumination or speedo wires. The radio lights come on with the switched hot, and there is no speed-based volume feature.

coreseller

Thanks Dave. I just finished looking over the wiring I already have connected, everything from the OE wiring behind the dash is used / connected and spoken for. Maybe that's it / all?

There are 3 harnesses that plug into the back of the Blaupunkt;

1. Speaker connections......done

2. Antenna, Hot Switched, Hot Continuous, Ground.....done
Illumination, Radio Mute, Sub Out, Sub Out Ground.......not done

3. Remote Control ground, Remote Control in, 12v Switched (RC), Telephone NF In+, Telephone NF In-, Radio Mute......not done

Not sure but I think #3 may be for Steering Wheel Controls?

element

Where did you get the BP Toronto from? Im in the same situation - cut wires, Hifi system and want to get back to stock setup + new deck. I need to start pulling things apart and soldering wires back together.

phil.

coreseller

Got it on Fleabay, $250 shipped. For whatever reason the seller bumped his prices to $290 for his remaining 4 since my purchase a week ago.


Any Experts on the Questions Above?

element

Thanks! so i checked it out.. and noticed that they are located in Mississauga - im sitting downtown Toronto right now, so can go pickup before heading back to Seattle on the weekend Buying direct from them looks a bit cheaper as well - http://www.shimstech.com/

phil.

inkatouring

I just put a toronto in my c4s but will be taking it out soon. Sound quality is good, iPod integration is ok at best, and bluetooth is horrible. Personally, I will be using a CDR-220 with remote iPod and a separate Parrot for bluetooth. Plus, I much prefer the look of the origina Porsche Beckers. I'd like it to all work in one unit, but alas, it was not meant to be.

Anyone want a slightly used Toronto?

element

what wasnt working with the BT? What phone are you using? I may be interested - how much $ are you looking for?


phil.

Mercedesben

I am possibly interested.
Nice color combo by the way!

coreseller

Well, hopefully you guys had luck selling your radios...........

Back to my OP and question:

I just finished looking over the wiring I already have connected, everything from the OE wiring behind the dash is used / connected and spoken for. Maybe that's it / all?

There are 3 harnesses that plug into the back of the Blaupunkt;

1. Speaker connections......done

2. Antenna, Hot Switched, Hot Continuous, Ground.....done
Illumination, Radio Mute, Sub Out, Sub Out Ground.......not done

3. Remote Control ground, Remote Control in, 12v Switched (RC), Telephone NF In+, Telephone NF In-, Radio Mute......not done

Any radio gurus out there?

993dream

Coreseller,

I believe you need to tap into the ashtray light to get the power for illumination. It worked for me. See this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ferrerid=39804