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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Looking for some detailing advice here. Paint is about a year old and is more than ready for it's first hardcore detailing session. The only product I've used so far has been the Glaze below.

There are some minor swirl marks in the clear coat that I'd like to smooth out. The paint is very dry and is missing depth. (I think as a result of prepping it with the clay bar)

Below is a picture of what I have to work with and the stages I've made up and tricked myself into thinking is correct.

Stage 1: Cutting Pad, Fine Cut Cleaner
Stage 2: Polishing Pad, Deep Crystal Polish
Stage 3: Finishing Pad, Klasse Sealer

Any help would be appreciated. Keep in mind this is all I have to work with...

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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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I'm not too familiar with the Meguiar's products but, I have experience with Klasse Sealant Glaze. If you apply three plus coats of the KSG you'll have a very durable and brilliant shine. Each coat should be applied at least 24 hours apart to allow for curing. Also, you'll need to keep the car out of direct sunlight during the curing process.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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I always like M'grs...and Klasse. I think you are good with what you are using...just pay attention to the details in early stages so the final sealant will "shine". I am sure more knowledgable RL'rs will add some useful info.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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By the way, what kind of polisher are you using? If you're using a Porter Cable or Griots Garage random orbital you should be fine. I've used my Porter Cable quite a bit and found it to be pretty fool proof (I'm a pretty big fool) I had great results using it on my black C2s.

I also have a Flex 3401 and would not recommend using it unless you have some experience. It's a different animal from the PC or GG...quite a bit more power.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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I've got the Porter Cable. I'm curious what the differences are between the different pad options I have.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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Do yourself a favor go to Autopia.org look around a bit and ask your questions there. This forum is where you go for expert advice on 993's that is where you go for expert advice on auto detailing....
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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Have you considered Meguires Synthetic Paint Sealant? Claying and the Synthetic Paint Sealant have worked out great for me!
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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I would clay bar before waxing.

+1 on Klasse: LOVE that stuff.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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Where to start. How much money are you willing to spend on this? Regardless, you should

1- wash the car with dawn liquid soap to strip any old stuff.
2- next clay bar the entire car thoroughly. This is a very necessary step.
3 - wash again with good car soap. I use Zaino, but Meguiars is ok.
4- use a fairly aggressive compound or polish to get out all those scratches and swirls. I like 3M or Einszett. I would go to a forum sponsor detail company and purchase better pads than what is in your pic ( no offense intended). Orange is probably the right answer. Keep repeating this step until you are happy with the finish.
5- finish with a wax or sealant, depending on what matters most to you... Depth and wet vs. Shiny and clinical, longevity, etc. Waxes are deeper and wetter looking but don't last as long and not as protective. The synthetics will be harder, last longer, protect better, but look more shiny and antiseptic if that makes sense.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 10:46 PM
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I like Griots Garage products

http://www.griotsgarage.com/
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ish993
I like Griots Garage products

http://www.griotsgarage.com/
Us too, and Richard Griot has a 993, or at least he used to...... but then so did I (x3)
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:16 PM
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Griots stuff is nice for certain things. I love their rubber cleaner and interior cleaner... And the aprons and tools they sell
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
Griots stuff is nice for certain things. I love their rubber cleaner and interior cleaner... And the aprons and tools they sell
I love the extra long q-tips. I can't get that Concour bug outta me no matter how hard I try!


We won full Concours (Class and Division) at PCA Parade in Performance Modified using Griots products and superglue (for my finger nails).
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:44 PM
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Good grief, isn't machine polishing a little too agressive for year old paint? If the car has been driven in bad weather start with clay (after washing of course), then a good hand polish like 3m Imperial Hand Glaze or Meguiar's Show Glaze followed by a quality wax like P21S or Pinnacle. If you replaced your rear stone guards don't get anywhere near them with a machine polisher or you will be replacing them again!
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The Brewmeister
Good grief, isn't machine polishing a little too agressive for year old paint? If the car has been driven in bad weather start with clay (after washing of course), then a good hand polish like 3m Imperial Hand Glaze or Meguiar's Show Glaze followed by a quality wax like P21S or Pinnacle. If you replaced your rear stone guards don't get anywhere near them with a machine polisher or you will be replacing them again!
We're not talking about an regular buffer, we're talking random orbital like the PC 7424, which is very mild on a low setting, basically like using hands...
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