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At the last AX I went to, one of the guys recommended to go to 5 Front, 1 Rear to make the car more balanced and help with turn-in.
Please note that I have a cab, which flexes more than a coupe.

What have you guys experienced?
What setting would dial-out understeer?
What setting would dial-out oversteer?

il pirata

4 f 5 R with M030 sways/RS motor mounts/Walrods upfront. Boulderbobo's comments cover the rest.

os993

Just a side note that I sent my PSS9's to Bilstein for repair (the rear ***** were frozen) and lone an behold, Bilstein gets back to me saying they are out of PSS9 parts! They can't repair them, even though they supposedly offer a lifetime warranty on them! Crazee.

What I mean is that make sure to check (and double check) with Bilstein to make sure they indeed can re-valve your HD's. As others have mentioned, the $ comes in the install, and replacement (and balance) of the shocks, so while you are doing it, make sure you do it well.

For me, I was able to come up with a suitable arrangement to purchase PSS10's at a fair price, based on my rears being covered under warranty and that I didn't want to mix and match front's with PSS9 and rears with PSS10's. In the end, I was satisfied with the upgrade.

I've been cruising around town at 1F/1R and tried 9F/9R so far. I will play with the settings discussed here!

Cheers!

Knight

A racing shop I got my alignment done at set me up with 7F / 5R and it seems to feel great. I noticed this different from majority here, where they setup a stiffer rears vs fronts.

Honestly thinking PSS10s really have a soft, medium and hard. Will a few notches make a difference is questionable.

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

Au contraire sir,...

Bilstein used tenders here which are active springs, not helpers which simply keep the mains from falling out of the perches. These are two totally different types of springs.

PSS-10's have 250lb main with 220lb tenders up front, with 400lb main & 686lb tenders in the rear. Its an unconventional but effective package.

JPP

On my first coupe, I started out with HD's and stock U.S. springs and to be honest, it was a very good setup for street but I wanted a lower ride height. When I finally settled on PSS10's I kept re-adjusting them down from the original 5F 7R setup until I got to 2F 4R and that's where I found a good 'compromise' for street use, but it was never as good as the original HD/U.S. spring feel. I have since found that the setup that most closely feels like my HD/stock U.S. setup is HD's with R.O.W. M033 springs, the M030's are too harsh for the street IMHO and the slightly softer, more linear spring rate design of the M033 is the perfect street match to standard HD valving.

Neil Perry

Hi
I have 5 front and 5 back which works well for street use,
originally I had 4 front and 5 back but that seemed a little to loose.

My car is a 97 C2

Mike J

Not sure how Gerry knows the best setting for the PSS-10's - was this his recommendation?

Remember the Turbo is heavier in the rear than the NA cars - so interesting that he recommended that.

Have you dialed in different settings and tried them?

Cheers,

Mike

Knight

Cheyne at Blitzkreig set this up. Before the alignment etc I had it vice versa based on feedback and readings from here and it felt very unsettled in corners, one of the major reasons I went in for an alignment check. Total opposite now.

A few of the RUF guys in the Turbo forum also said RUF Dallas setup a softer rear vs front too, stating it offered more stability with all of the weight.

Really got to get this out on the track to make any real conclusion IMO.

Mike J

If he did an alignment, that could make more of a difference than the settings on the feel of the car. Do you have your settings?

Cheers,

Mike

911PERVY

Wow, there's an adjustment Michael Schumacher would be pleased to notice!

tctung

Most PSS-10 owners in Taiwan have it set at 4F 6R. (bumpy roads here)

SMF

6 all around
this long circuit in Germany
how do you call it? Ring Hell
8:57 on standard Conti II
car is 1270 kg
on semi schlock and auto slalom spring are OK
but for slick & normal circuit I have to do something with rear springs

C4S993

My complains would be that firmer ride that I was expecting and I still have yet to figure out the right settings for the rear drop links. Been through a few Tarretts already. Wonder if going to RS bar would help ?

TheBen

4F 6R but thinking of dialing it down (soften) 1 notch as the roads here aren't too good.