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Old 01-06-2011 | 05:20 PM
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I Owner, Coupe,50000 Miles, lowered suspension, No Dealer Service histories except the first 3 years ,but serviced regularly by independent German car Mechanic

The seller claims no accidents and original Paint

I haven't really spent much money on PPI, Carfax etc; I wanted to make sure that Car will be drivable in the future

The car is appears to be in good condition for naked & inexperienced person

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Old 01-06-2011 | 06:22 PM
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Forget about this one......
Old 01-06-2011 | 06:26 PM
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With any car like a 993 you're buying the PO as much as the car itself. This one says run all over it.....

Plenty more without chassis issues for this sort of money or not much more. In the long run you'll be happier by skipping this one.....
Old 01-06-2011 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by peter_s430
The seller claims no accidents.
Peter,
A 993 is a robust sports car, overbuilt in some ways.

There is no way in the history of the universe that this "original owner" is telling the truth. Impossible.

He is obviously looking for a sucker. I would advise you not to pursue this rolling question mark.


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Old 01-06-2011 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CorrdoBrit
With any car like a 993 you're buying the PO as much as the car itself.
This statement is very true. How did he manage to leave such issues unadressed? What about other problems he is not disclosing?
Old 01-06-2011 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AOW162435
...He is obviously looking for a sucker. I would advise you not to pursue this rolling question mark.
+10000. You can get a nice 75k mile car for $25k (I did, as did others here). He knows what happened, he just isn't telling. That's MAJOR damage.

i'm guessing $3k+ to fix it (best case), plus $2k for all new front suspension parts, which are undoubtedly bent up too from a hit like that. There's a reason he's selling it "as is" -- he got the $6k estimate from his body shop and so he's looking for a sucker who thinks it's not that bad.

I'd say the car is worth maybe $18k. Could be a good race car starting point.
Old 01-06-2011 | 07:49 PM
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25K too much for this car.

The whole story has not come out yet.

Is that other lower panel in the picture cracked or just split at the seam?

What does the other tower look like. Is it about to fail or not a sign of failing. That would be a clue.

What about any of the suspension pick up points, A-arms, other damage. Looks like it was dropped off a cliff.

I can promise you a proper repair on this is thousands of dollars.
Old 01-06-2011 | 07:54 PM
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Oh an it probably goes without saying, but you should DEFINITELY NOT DRIVE THIS CAR in its current condition. If you value your life, that is. This owner is nuckin futs if he's driving it like that.
Old 01-06-2011 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by peter_s430
I Owner, Coupe,50000 Miles, lowered suspension, No Dealer Service histories except the first 3 years ,but serviced regularly by independent German car Mechanic

The seller claims no accidents and original Paint

I haven't really spent much money on PPI, Carfax etc; I wanted to make sure that Car will be drivable in the future

The car is appears to be in good condition for naked & inexperienced person

Best Regards
Peter
Anything is fixable. I know of an AC Cobra that when off the road and down a mountian side and burned to nothing left but the frame and was restored.

Just guessing looking at that there is at least 5k, probably closer to 10k damage to fix it proper.

Strip in all down in the front. It will have to go on a frame rack, replace a couple panels anyway. The tower is into the fuel tank. Any other damage, probably most likely, paint and reassemble the car. Yes it will need an alignment. Probably a strut... and who knows what else.
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Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
+10000. You can get a nice 75k mile car for $25k (I did, as did others here). He knows what happened, he just isn't telling. That's MAJOR damage.

i'm guessing $3k+ to fix it (best case), plus $2k for all new front suspension parts, which are undoubtedly bent up too from a hit like that. There's a reason he's selling it "as is" -- he got the $6k estimate from his body shop and so he's looking for a sucker who thinks it's not that bad.

I'd say the car is worth maybe $18k. Could be a good race car starting point.
You didn't take in account the headache factor or unknowns. I'd say 10-15k, and only have I inspected it personally.
Old 01-06-2011 | 08:00 PM
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If I had to guess that was side impact and not vertical damage.
Old 01-06-2011 | 08:49 PM
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Peter - is this a US car that has already been imported into Canada?

For $25k - even if the car is already in Canada - I would look for a straight unmolested car with a well documented history in the US. Even though you'll have to import it, duty, paperwork, etc... my bet is that you'll end up ahead compared to dealing with both known and unknown hassles with this car.
Old 01-06-2011 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by peter_s430

The owner doesn't know how the damaged had happened.

He thinks that he may have hit the curb hard or might be damaged over time by improperly lowered suspension.
Very hard to believe.
Old 01-06-2011 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dave morris
Very hard to believe.
Exactly. A jolt to cause that much damage would have knocked a few fillings out of his mouth. Unless he wasn't the driver he knows precisely what happened and when.
Old 01-06-2011 | 09:33 PM
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Why not buy Jford's car here on Rennlist? It's a helluva car with a very rare transmission.

https://rennlist.com/forums/7485461-post1.html


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