Fiend says avoid '95 at all costs
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One other advantage of a '95 (not saying there is one year that is better,) is that my SAI system is in the garbage dump somewhere. Can't do that on the later years.
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All OBD1 993 use the same DME, these are all 55pin and were used in all, '94/95 US and all '96-98 RoW normally aspirated.
US '96-98 and all turbos use OBD2, these are 88 pin units which are no faster or better than the OBD1 units, they are more intrusive and difficult to work w/ as well as more expensive to maintain ex OBD2 use 4 O sensors, OBD1 uses 1
US '96-98 and all turbos use OBD2, these are 88 pin units which are no faster or better than the OBD1 units, they are more intrusive and difficult to work w/ as well as more expensive to maintain ex OBD2 use 4 O sensors, OBD1 uses 1
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I have had mine since new-early build 2-94. I have had no issues and love everything about the 95!
It is well traveled from Los Angeles to the big Island of Hawaii and now Sweden!
It was chipped and you can see by my avatar info-lot's but little has been done. Came with m-30 but changed out the struts and spring for better handling and lower look ect...
It all comes down to finding a well kept car-loved and driven!
Porsche 95's are only slow when sitting!
Your friend is a bit of a maroooon!
It is well traveled from Los Angeles to the big Island of Hawaii and now Sweden!
It was chipped and you can see by my avatar info-lot's but little has been done. Came with m-30 but changed out the struts and spring for better handling and lower look ect...
It all comes down to finding a well kept car-loved and driven!
Porsche 95's are only slow when sitting!
Your friend is a bit of a maroooon!
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According to this tsb, the only changes are updated shocks, springs, and stabilizer (anti-roll) bars. If this is the case, then all you need to do to update the suspension on a 94- early 95 is to install aftermarket or row anti-roll bars and aftermarket dampers like pss10's, motons...etc. It mentions nothing about control arms or any other components that would change the actual suspension geometry.
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According to this tsb, the only changes are updated shocks, springs, and stabilizer (anti-roll) bars. If this is the case, then all you need to do to update the suspension on a 94- early 95 is to install aftermarket or row anti-roll bars and aftermarket dampers like pss10's, motons...etc. It mentions nothing about control arms or any other components that would change the actual suspension geometry.
I compared my original rear suspension arms to my new RS replacement arms too. They are identical except for the bushes and years of wear on the old parts
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No, don't get me wrong. The car will be 17 years old in June and has a few miles on her. It is just nice to know the parts she was built with. Having said that, mine feels extremely good, although I've only had wet driving opportunities. I'll get her on my lift for a closer inspection of everything and look for some dry weather to assault Palomar Mountain.
Sheesh, if I didnt have the 993 now, it would be no Porsche driving for a few days. Ruby's R's don't like the rain.
Sheesh, if I didnt have the 993 now, it would be no Porsche driving for a few days. Ruby's R's don't like the rain.
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Hey Bill why don't you post a screen shot of the control arm part numbers off pet.
96-98 guys can throw there SAI system in the trash as well, they just need to run a
hose that bypasses the heads into the cat. Edit: that works, if it didnt work for you,
you didn't do it right.
As far as OBD1 and OBD2; I spent a week in Reno Nevada at Porsche North America
learning about the new ECU. It blows the OBD1 away in metering/speed, just like your
Dell laptop, they get faster.
96-98 guys can throw there SAI system in the trash as well, they just need to run a
hose that bypasses the heads into the cat. Edit: that works, if it didnt work for you,
you didn't do it right.
As far as OBD1 and OBD2; I spent a week in Reno Nevada at Porsche North America
learning about the new ECU. It blows the OBD1 away in metering/speed, just like your
Dell laptop, they get faster.
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Jeez, I take a break from tearing apart my POS early 95 and this thread is still going on!
Why doesn't somebody that has suspension arms from an early 95, a 96 and a 97 just measure them all and see who is right.
O.K.
Here are toe arms, 95 on bottom, bent 96 in middle, late 97 on top.
![](http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/rsr91128/Underneath/toearms.jpg)
The dimensions are exactly the same. The 95 is actually the heaviest, you can see the 95 and 96 have taller "webs", and the 97 are shorter. The only noticable difference is the style (and I'm guessing durometer) of the bushings.
I will have the rest of the early 95 arms off later this month and verify there is no size difference between them, but from 96 to 97 on the KT and camber arms there is no difference except rubber bushing.
![](http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/rsr91128/Underneath/susarma.jpg)
So Bill is right
(that is a joke as they are both Bill).
Why doesn't somebody that has suspension arms from an early 95, a 96 and a 97 just measure them all and see who is right.
O.K.
Here are toe arms, 95 on bottom, bent 96 in middle, late 97 on top.
![](http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/rsr91128/Underneath/toearms.jpg)
The dimensions are exactly the same. The 95 is actually the heaviest, you can see the 95 and 96 have taller "webs", and the 97 are shorter. The only noticable difference is the style (and I'm guessing durometer) of the bushings.
I will have the rest of the early 95 arms off later this month and verify there is no size difference between them, but from 96 to 97 on the KT and camber arms there is no difference except rubber bushing.
![](http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/rsr91128/Underneath/susarma.jpg)
So Bill is right
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There is a strong tendency in this thread to value apocryphal information and opinion over objective facts. Not one of the forum's greatest moments.
To the OP: buy the best car you can find at a fair price. You won't be disappointed either way. There are people here who justifiably love their '96-'98 993s just as much as the '95 owners who have already spoken out.
To the OP: buy the best car you can find at a fair price. You won't be disappointed either way. There are people here who justifiably love their '96-'98 993s just as much as the '95 owners who have already spoken out.
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Hey Erik,
Can you post the part numbers of the arms?
This is good stuff, thanks.
This is the area im looking at.
![](http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/Calvinc4s/arms.jpg)
Lets put our energy into learning the truth, not proving our point.
Can you post the part numbers of the arms?
This is good stuff, thanks.
This is the area im looking at.
![](http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/Calvinc4s/arms.jpg)
Lets put our energy into learning the truth, not proving our point.