MO33 vs MO30 Coilovers and Springs
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Monroes don't last, though.
About four years ago, we had this discussion here, and virtually everyone concluded the HD's were plenty comfy. I put ROW M030/HD's on mine and it doesn't feel harsh at all. And this from a guy whose seats (car and pants) have little padding in them!
About four years ago, we had this discussion here, and virtually everyone concluded the HD's were plenty comfy. I put ROW M030/HD's on mine and it doesn't feel harsh at all. And this from a guy whose seats (car and pants) have little padding in them!
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From what I'm hearing, sounds like M033 springs with the Monroes would be the way to get the best stance/look but with the softest ride.
I went with M030/Bilstein HDs. I am pretty happy with my setup, its firm for sure but not "harsh" (totally subjective, I know). I do remember dismissing the Monroes when picking my suspension based on word that they didn't last long.
You should ride in my cab and see what you think for yourself.
I went with M030/Bilstein HDs. I am pretty happy with my setup, its firm for sure but not "harsh" (totally subjective, I know). I do remember dismissing the Monroes when picking my suspension based on word that they didn't last long.
You should ride in my cab and see what you think for yourself.
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OP: Here in Philly, we have more potholes than pretzels. I have the HDs and 030s and while the car responds well in more spirited driving, my bride always comments that it doesn't ride like an expensive car...more like my Pinto (back in the day). My setup is only a bit more than a year old and I'm trying to use her discomfort to justify changing my springs. Unfortunately, from what you guys say, the 033s aren't going to cut it on these roads either. Oh bother!!! Good luck with your choice!
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OP: Here in Philly, we have more potholes than pretzels. I have the HDs and 030s and while the car responds well in more spirited driving, my bride always comments that it doesn't ride like an expensive car...more like my Pinto (back in the day). My setup is only a bit more than a year old and I'm trying to use her discomfort to justify changing my springs. Unfortunately, from what you guys say, the 033s aren't going to cut it on these roads either. Oh bother!!! Good luck with your choice!
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Still deciding as well. I thought the whole purpose of the PSS10's was adjustability. Crank'em down and be ready for the track. Back them off to their softest setting and drive the wife to beach and still enjoy crisp handling and a happy wife. Am I wrong? Also, the Monroe's don't seem to last very long where as the Bilstein's have a life time warranty. Correct?
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I have the full M033 setup from Sunset and love it. After reading many posts on the topic, it seems that the reports of the Monroes only lasting 35-40,000 miles come from some of the pothole capitals of the country (Boston, Philadelphia, etc.). In other reports people have had Monroes still doing their job at 60, 70, even 100,000 miles. My own experience was that my original Monroes were still doing the job at 65,00. So I guess it depends on your roads.
Here's how I ended up looking at it. Even with the worst outcome (shot in 35,000 miles) for my 5,000 miles a year, I'd have to replace them in 7 years. For $900+ from Sunset and the fantastic feel of this combo it made sense for me. Who knows what I'll want to do in 7 years?
Here's how I ended up looking at it. Even with the worst outcome (shot in 35,000 miles) for my 5,000 miles a year, I'd have to replace them in 7 years. For $900+ from Sunset and the fantastic feel of this combo it made sense for me. Who knows what I'll want to do in 7 years?
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I have M033s with Koni FSDs, and am really happy with the combination. Very nice ride, and excellent cornering. Every time I take the car out, I like it better.
The car looks good, too.
My Monroes had 49,000 miles on them when I did the conversion.
The car looks good, too.
My Monroes had 49,000 miles on them when I did the conversion.
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I have Koni FSD with ROW 029 springs (stock ROW springs). I really, really like the shocks, and find myself
looking for rough roads to drive on to enjoy the improvement over my stock US Monroe setup. My car had 51.000 when I made the change. It lowered the car only about 3/8", I had hoped for about 3/4". The Koni's do come with a lifetime guarantee for the original purchaser.
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looking for rough roads to drive on to enjoy the improvement over my stock US Monroe setup. My car had 51.000 when I made the change. It lowered the car only about 3/8", I had hoped for about 3/4". The Koni's do come with a lifetime guarantee for the original purchaser.
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Currently have P10's, not happy with level of compliance when set to "soft"
Yup, that's what made me start this thread
Still deciding as well. I thought the whole purpose of the PSS10's was adjustability. Crank'em down and be ready for the track. Back them off to their softest setting and drive the wife to beach and still enjoy crisp handling and a happy wife. Am I wrong? Also, the Monroe's don't seem to last very long where as the Bilstein's have a life time warranty. Correct?
they worked for that purpose quite well, but when driving around in "cruiser mode", the compliance sucked IMO. Too much compression damping for my tastes.
I just bought a set of the MO33s, (perhaps the last ones in stock), from Sunset.
I'll keep the RS ARB's for now to tune front vs rear balance and see if it's the P10's or the thicker ARBs that are the primary contributor to lousy ride quality.
i'll keep the group updated on my experiences.
Sorry, but the P10's are already promised to a local guy currently suffering with worn out P9's.
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I have the full M033 setup from Sunset and love it. After reading many posts on the topic, it seems that the reports of the Monroes only lasting 35-40,000 miles come from some of the pothole capitals of the country (Boston, Philadelphia, etc.). In other reports people have had Monroes still doing their job at 60, 70, even 100,000 miles. My own experience was that my original Monroes were still doing the job at 65,00. So I guess it depends on your roads.
Here's how I ended up looking at it. Even with the worst outcome (shot in 35,000 miles) for my 5,000 miles a year, I'd have to replace them in 7 years. For $900+ from Sunset and the fantastic feel of this combo it made sense for me. Who knows what I'll want to do in 7 years?
Here's how I ended up looking at it. Even with the worst outcome (shot in 35,000 miles) for my 5,000 miles a year, I'd have to replace them in 7 years. For $900+ from Sunset and the fantastic feel of this combo it made sense for me. Who knows what I'll want to do in 7 years?
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...it will be many years before I hit 30-40k miles on these things...1pcarnut
But I ended up making a right brain decision...
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I had M030's + HD's put on this past summer and I find the ride very comfortable in all conditions. I can't believe anyone would see the ride as "harsh" with this setup. I think it is actually more compliant than it was with my original non-sport springs + worn shocks. My wife actually thinks the ride is more comfortable and is happy that I replaced the worn shocks.
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