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Old 10-13-2010, 01:53 PM
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Default Advice Needed - GPS Tracking Device for Tool Box

Hi,

I need your advice.

As some of you may know, my daughter is in an auto-tech program. She would like to wrench Porsches professionally one of these days.

She bought over $6k of Snap-On tools as part of the program requirement. The tool box alone was over $2.3k. She stored the tools at our place over the summer as she thought that might be more safe than the school's shop area.

We added/remodeled the house over the summer and we moved out for 2 months to avoid the dust etc. A few weeks ago, someone broke into our garage and stole her tools and some other tools. That happened 3 days before we moved back in. Long story short, for a myriad of reasons my home insurance policy rejected the claim. I am still working on that.

Now she will rebuy those tools as she needs them for school still. We are thinking about hiding a GPS tracking device somewhere in the tool box in case something untoward happens again. We looked on-line and haven't found anything good yet. Thus this thread.

Would you folks have good experience with device(s) that suits our needs? If so, we'd really appreciate your recommendations. Thanks for the education as always.

BTW, we are also talking to our agent about the best way to insure her tools. It is sad that we live in a society where nothing is safe anymore.

CP

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That is terrible. When our house was robbed, you feel angry and violated. Instead of messing with GPS, just get tools that are less valuable. I asked a tradesman who was at my house why he was using Ryobi tools instead of "professional" tools. His answer was simple - they dont get stolen at the jobsite....

Hopefully someone will point you in the right direction with the GPS if thats the route you want to go.
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That's awful. Don't know about the GPS, but many insurance companies have "Personal Items" policies that can be bought to cover things like jewelry, firearms, collectibles, etc. Otherwise, the limit for personal items under the generic homeowners ("fire") policy is about $500, which is probably what your agent told you.
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Try LoJack. It works on cars and newborns, should do the trick for a box of wrenches.
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Give these guys a call, they should be able to make a recommendation for you.

www.brickhousesecurity.com

I've bought from them before (nothing like what you're looking for though) and was very pleased with their service.

I second the Personal Property policy. I just got one for my firearms and the wife's jewelry a few mos. ago (even though we have a full size safe now too).
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Originally Posted by tj90
... just get tools that are less valuable...
If the OPs daughter is anything like me, this is not a viable solution.

Cheap tools break. Expensive tools break too, but not nearly as often.
The Snap-On rep will be visiting once or twice a week and will replace broken tools.
When you break a cheap tool, you have to go out and buy a new replacement.
Cheap tools are usually a liability.

There are insurance policies available for trade tools. They are worth the extra cost in situations such as this.

--Chuck--
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Originally Posted by speedbump2
If the OPs daughter is anything like me, this is not a viable solution.

Cheap tools break. Expensive tools break too, but not nearly as often.
The Snap-On rep will be visiting once or twice a week and will replace broken tools.
When you break a cheap tool, you have to go out and buy a new replacement.
Cheap tools are usually a liability.

There are insurance policies available for trade tools. They are worth the extra cost in situations such as this.

--Chuck--
I hear you. I just think any solution to "protect" valuable tools is not viable. Even with the best insurance, tracking or anything else - there will be down time getting replacements. Down time = lost $$.

Maybe there are mediocre tools that will not break but wont break the bank either. Im thinking c-man or kobalt... these brands would be less tempting in a crime of opportunity.

You could also cosmetically alter the tools to reduce the chance of casual theft. Engrave, coat or paint the pieces so at least a classmate will not steal the items.

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You need something like this. The only thing is having it powered some way.

http://www.enfotrace.com/market/index.html
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Originally Posted by tj90
I hear you. I just think any solution to "protect" valuable tools is not viable. Even with the best insurance, tracking or anything else - there will be down time getting replacements. Down time = lost $$.

Maybe there are mediocre tools that will not break but wont break the bank either. Im thinking c-man or kobalt... I doubt either of these brands would be less tempting in a crime of opportunity.

You could also cosmetically alter the tools to reduce the chance of casual theft. Engrave, coat or paint the pieces so at least a classmate will not steal the items.
I just have a handful of my snappy tools left. I don't use them every day any more, but I have been perfectly happy with my Life Time Warranty HF Pittsburg and General tools. I haven't had to replace a single one yet.

I do have a box of broken snappy tools, I just never see the Snap-On guy ever.

I know when you are young and starting out it's hard to be in a shop with anything other than Snap-On but I say let the quality of your work speak for yourself and not your tool box or what is in it. Some of the best mechanics I know have what most would call junk for tool boxes and tool.
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Just get one of these and keep buying decent tools.

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Hmm, sorry to hear about the tools, its definitely gets me steamed. As a guy who has personally been through over 5 break-ins in my residence, I understand the feeling. My shop has only been broken into once, and they did not take anything, so I am lucky there.

There are three layers of protection between the outside world and my tools....the metal garage doors/entrance door, the inner folding metal door with lockable floor pins, and a custom welded steel door with a large padlock...and its all alarmed. Gets all locked up when I am not in the shop (including during the day, at night, etc.).

I guess what I am saying is perhaps you need to look at how well the tools are locked up, and making it harder to get at the tools. Most crooks will not try that hard, if the alarm is going, and they need to move, they will not bother.

I just want to catch of of these guys one of these days, hopefully with my baseball bat in my hands.....

Cheers,

Mike
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That is terrible! Sorry to hear about it.

Take a look at this (Zoombak $99):

http://www.zoombak.com/

I considered getting one of these after our cat went missing for over a week (we found him alive and well under our neighbor's house). It will send you an email or call you if the device gets out of a set range or you can log on and see where it is at any time.

Only downside is a $12 monthly fee and figuring out how to attach it discreetly to the tool box. Also needs to be re-charged every now and then. Works for cars, people, anything...

Good Luck.
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CP: This might work for you:
https://www.escortradar.com/entourageps/
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http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-...376101648?mt=8

May be a way to tape it concealed inside the tool box.
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Originally Posted by speedbump2
If the OPs daughter is anything like me, this is not a viable solution.

Cheap tools break. Expensive tools break too, but not nearly as often.
The Snap-On rep will be visiting once or twice a week and will replace broken tools.
When you break a cheap tool, you have to go out and buy a new replacement.
Cheap tools are usually a liability.

There are insurance policies available for trade tools. They are worth the extra cost in situations such as this.

--Chuck--
agreed.
i dont understand why snapon, facom, matco cost so much. i had other POS tools. then i bought a few snap on ratchets. soon after that, ALL my tools were replaced with snap on. it's NOT the same.


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