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So, I am in the middle of a minor cosmetic upgrade to the 993 which included a new rear spoiler. That necessitated a high mounted brake light. Upon installation, I had my son push the brake to test the circuit. I saw smoke and then BANG! Broken window. ![banghead](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/banghead.gif)
So, in retrospect I should have routed new wires as the existing wires were obviously damaged. I will do this when the new window is installed.
Has anyone out there bought a rear window lately? I'm curious as to the cost from a glass supplier, wrecking yard, dealer, etc.
Also, I think this is glued in, right? I am typically a do it yourself-er but I may not be able to effectively do this one right if I need to remove glue, install and re-glue - all without breaking the window.
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So, in retrospect I should have routed new wires as the existing wires were obviously damaged. I will do this when the new window is installed.
Has anyone out there bought a rear window lately? I'm curious as to the cost from a glass supplier, wrecking yard, dealer, etc.
Also, I think this is glued in, right? I am typically a do it yourself-er but I may not be able to effectively do this one right if I need to remove glue, install and re-glue - all without breaking the window.
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People end with rear window surround rust when the fitter scrapes the old sealant off (usually with a sharp tool) and does not repaint properly.
If you have someone do it for you make sure they know what they are doing and have experience with 993's
Berni
People end with rear window surround rust when the fitter scrapes the old sealant off (usually with a sharp tool) and does not repaint properly.
If you have someone do it for you make sure they know what they are doing and have experience with 993's
Berni
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Thanks Berni. I was thinking of that when I pulled the outer seal off and looked at the pristine paintwork underneath!
I hate having someone I do not know work on the 993!
I hate having someone I do not know work on the 993!
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Your insurance should cover this. With luck you have a zero deductible replacement policy for glass. I would take it to the dealer and express your concerns about future rust. Good luck.
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Shoot Dave, this sucks!
Since glass is most vulnerable at its edges, would excessive resistance at this third brake light connection near the edge of the glass create enough heat to break the glass?
Wonder if this is the culprit behind all of these rear window explosions?
Since glass is most vulnerable at its edges, would excessive resistance at this third brake light connection near the edge of the glass create enough heat to break the glass?
Wonder if this is the culprit behind all of these rear window explosions?
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States with zero deductibles on glass typically only apply to the front windshield.
I've never looked for a used one, but if you are somehow able to find one, ensure the bonded plastic edge is undamaged (holds the outer seal) and that the part number is correct. There's at least one difference between models - the number of wires coming from the defroster elements.
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I've never looked for a used one, but if you are somehow able to find one, ensure the bonded plastic edge is undamaged (holds the outer seal) and that the part number is correct. There's at least one difference between models - the number of wires coming from the defroster elements.
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I had a recent rear window seal issue (cracked channel surrounding the window). My independent body repair shop quoted me $1600 to replace the rear window on my 1996 C2, labor included. Not inexpensive by any means. I found an alternative solution where I kept the original glass to effect the repair.
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Shoot Dave, this sucks!
Since glass is most vulnerable at its edges, would excessive resistance at this third brake light connection near the edge of the glass create enough heat to break the glass?
Wonder if this is the culprit behind all of these rear window explosions?
Since glass is most vulnerable at its edges, would excessive resistance at this third brake light connection near the edge of the glass create enough heat to break the glass?
Wonder if this is the culprit behind all of these rear window explosions?
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Ten years later, it explodes. My experience suggests it's unrelated to the third brake light connection.
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My back window exploded a year or so ago, but in 1999 I had the third brake light go out, so I fished the wires through the sealant. Then I resealed the wires, never had a leak.
Ten years later, it explodes. My experience suggests it's unrelated to the third brake light connection.
Ten years later, it explodes. My experience suggests it's unrelated to the third brake light connection.
I will be running new wires through the seal like others have done as a precaution.
BTW, to contribute another data point - Safelite is coming out today to install the new window. Cost is $450. It is a non OEM window but is guaranteed for quality and clarity for life so I'm good with that. The used window from the wrecking yard is $500, not including any of the installation costs. New window from dealer is $990 (not Sunset). UPDATE: Safelite had wrong glass, see post below.
Thanks for the tips.
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Porsche had a lot of problems with this initially. They never issued a recall however they did fix affected windows. The glue they used evidently would not allow the windows to expand with heat. I think there's even a service bulletin soemwhere.
If you have this happen to you ENSURE you remove the rear seats, the package shelf and pull down any carpet or insulation to vacuum up EVERY piece of glass. It can work it's way into the main wiring harness (esp. on the right/US passenger side) and cause your car to catch fire. At the least it could precipitate expensive wiring harness repairs.
Don't ask me how I know.
If you have this happen to you ENSURE you remove the rear seats, the package shelf and pull down any carpet or insulation to vacuum up EVERY piece of glass. It can work it's way into the main wiring harness (esp. on the right/US passenger side) and cause your car to catch fire. At the least it could precipitate expensive wiring harness repairs.
Don't ask me how I know.
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If you have this happen to you ENSURE you remove the rear seats, the package shelf and pull down any carpet or insulation to vacuum up EVERY piece of glass. It can work it's way into the main wiring harness (esp. on the right/US passenger side) and cause your car to catch fire. At the least it could precipitate expensive wiring harness repairs.
Don't ask me how I know.
Don't ask me how I know.
Unfortunately, Safelite spec'd the wrong glass from a 964. So, I'm back to my previous plan of picking up glass from the wrecking yard today for $500 and having the glass guys do the install for $60. I'll update the thread when done.