I've got a disease, and the only cure is more cowbell... or a 993 track car
08-26-2010, 07:09 AM
#16
Burning Brakes
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08-26-2010, 07:12 AM
#17
Burning Brakes
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IMO this car is the best deal. Wish I were looking
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=24812
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=24812
Also talked to Hinkle an Thatcher about their cars. It ain't easy!
08-26-2010, 01:23 PM
#19
Three Wheelin'
A few truths...
Hi guys,
you don't know atr911 as well as I do. Let me explain a few truths he did not mention in his post...
1. Although he IS faster than me in his 997, his PSM is eating rear brake pads faster than Takeru Kobayashi on a hotdog! He needs to find out if he can REALLY drive.
2. His girlfriend likes mine better!
Please somebody buy his 997 so he can get a real Porsche.
you don't know atr911 as well as I do. Let me explain a few truths he did not mention in his post...
1. Although he IS faster than me in his 997, his PSM is eating rear brake pads faster than Takeru Kobayashi on a hotdog! He needs to find out if he can REALLY drive.
2. His girlfriend likes mine better!
Please somebody buy his 997 so he can get a real Porsche.
08-26-2010, 01:24 PM
#20
Rennlist Member
Cars and pricing are all over the map. The RSA ad has actually brought a serious someone from here into the picture for the yellow car. Why sell, right? Look what else is around, like Evan's. So you can go from a ready, but will need mechanical refurbishing car like my RSA for low $20s..........through a wheel-to-wheel car (and all the care and feeding that requires)...........to a car like JFord's that has low mileage and the transmission, but a basic suspension that will fold up once you're past a novice on track..........to the cost-no-object of my faux RS with a $25K 3.8 and nearly every suspension trick in the book. (Where those misc. RSAs fit in the picture I have no idea, as it seems there's a lot of parts thrown at them with no real goal.)
08-26-2010, 02:37 PM
#21
IMO this car is the best deal. Wish I were looking
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=24812
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=24812
08-26-2010, 03:39 PM
#23
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Hi guys,
you don't know atr911 as well as I do. Let me explain a few truths he did not mention in his post...
1. Although he IS faster than me in his 997, his PSM is eating rear brake pads faster than Takeru Kobayashi on a hotdog! He needs to find out if he can REALLY drive.
2. His girlfriend likes mine better!
Please somebody buy his 997 so he can get a real Porsche.
you don't know atr911 as well as I do. Let me explain a few truths he did not mention in his post...
1. Although he IS faster than me in his 997, his PSM is eating rear brake pads faster than Takeru Kobayashi on a hotdog! He needs to find out if he can REALLY drive.
2. His girlfriend likes mine better!
Please somebody buy his 997 so he can get a real Porsche.
LOL it's true, except for the burning out brake pads. Just tires
Cars and pricing are all over the map. The RSA ad has actually brought a serious someone from here into the picture for the yellow car. Why sell, right? Look what else is around, like Evan's. So you can go from a ready, but will need mechanical refurbishing car like my RSA for low $20s..........through a wheel-to-wheel car (and all the care and feeding that requires)...........to a car like JFord's that has low mileage and the transmission, but a basic suspension that will fold up once you're past a novice on track..........to the cost-no-object of my faux RS with a $25K 3.8 and nearly every suspension trick in the book. (Where those misc. RSAs fit in the picture I have no idea, as it seems there's a lot of parts thrown at them with no real goal.)
I agree, there is a HUGE difference between all the cars out there. DHinkles 993 with a 3.8 and cup type gear box is going for mid $50's and then there's the completely stock cars going for sub $25K. I think I'll be looking for something reasonably well setup for between $30-35,000. I would eventually like to do a 3.8 though, and I'm sure that isn't a cheap ordeal...
08-26-2010, 03:42 PM
#24
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Cars and pricing are all over the map. The RSA ad has actually brought a serious someone from here into the picture for the yellow car. Why sell, right? Look what else is around, like Evan's. So you can go from a ready, but will need mechanical refurbishing car like my RSA for low $20s..........through a wheel-to-wheel car (and all the care and feeding that requires)...........to a car like JFord's that has low mileage and the transmission, but a basic suspension that will fold up once you're past a novice on track..........to the cost-no-object of my faux RS with a $25K 3.8 and nearly every suspension trick in the book. (Where those misc. RSAs fit in the picture I have no idea, as it seems there's a lot of parts thrown at them with no real goal.)
Would I be faster with the Motons? Yes.
Could I still be faster than I am with the car as it sits? I have no doubt.
Sell off the PSS9's, ad the motons and you're still well under $40K.
08-26-2010, 04:06 PM
#25
Rennlist Member
LOL it's true, except for the burning out brake pads. Just tires
Where is the add for "Evan's" car?
I agree, there is a HUGE difference between all the cars out there. DHinkles 993 with a 3.8 and cup type gear box is going for mid $50's and then there's the completely stock cars going for sub $25K. I think I'll be looking for something reasonably well setup for between $30-35,000. I would eventually like to do a 3.8 though, and I'm sure that isn't a cheap ordeal...
Where is the add for "Evan's" car?
I agree, there is a HUGE difference between all the cars out there. DHinkles 993 with a 3.8 and cup type gear box is going for mid $50's and then there's the completely stock cars going for sub $25K. I think I'll be looking for something reasonably well setup for between $30-35,000. I would eventually like to do a 3.8 though, and I'm sure that isn't a cheap ordeal...
No question the addition of Motons would shave a few tics off lap times in my 993. I feel the need, however, to note that I would far from embarrass myself in the red group in which I ran/run....even with the Pss9's.
Would I be faster with the Motons? Yes.
Could I still be faster than I am with the car as it sits? I have no doubt.
Sell off the PSS9's, ad the motons and you're still well under $40K.
Would I be faster with the Motons? Yes.
Could I still be faster than I am with the car as it sits? I have no doubt.
Sell off the PSS9's, ad the motons and you're still well under $40K.
But back to the price scale, for ~$40K you have my full tilt 3.8 car. But it's 993 apples-and-oranges as a car like yours is low miles and nice for the street. My yellow car is out on the edge of things, and best suited for street only in a pinch.
08-26-2010, 04:16 PM
#26
Burning Brakes
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It's just about what they buyer is looking for.
Especially with modified cars. You really can't assume that modification "x" is worth anything to any buyer because to one person it may have value, and none (or a negative value) to another. It's more about the package. If you're looking for a track car, you want a truly track ready car. If you want a street car, you want minimal, if any, modifications. Of course there are all kinds of buyers out there who will pay a premium for almost anything.
For a seller it all come down to how badly you want/need to sell and how long you're willing to wait. Sure you can leave a car at the same asking for months and months but I believe this will only work with VERY unique asking cars with a very small market.
Especially with modified cars. You really can't assume that modification "x" is worth anything to any buyer because to one person it may have value, and none (or a negative value) to another. It's more about the package. If you're looking for a track car, you want a truly track ready car. If you want a street car, you want minimal, if any, modifications. Of course there are all kinds of buyers out there who will pay a premium for almost anything.
For a seller it all come down to how badly you want/need to sell and how long you're willing to wait. Sure you can leave a car at the same asking for months and months but I believe this will only work with VERY unique asking cars with a very small market.
08-26-2010, 04:20 PM
#27
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
It's in the classifieds. Funny, just got off the phone with him.
It's more than bolting on Motons (or your choice of race shock). There's all that rubber that needs to come out, and the uprights, etc. Honestly, I'd stay with a Bilstein/shock package from a known suspension expert, and you'll be 98% of what's possible out of the car.
But back to the price scale, for ~$40K you have my full tilt 3.8 car. But it's 993 apples-and-oranges as a car like yours is low miles and nice for the street. My yellow car is out on the edge of things, and best suited for street only in a pinch.
It's more than bolting on Motons (or your choice of race shock). There's all that rubber that needs to come out, and the uprights, etc. Honestly, I'd stay with a Bilstein/shock package from a known suspension expert, and you'll be 98% of what's possible out of the car.
But back to the price scale, for ~$40K you have my full tilt 3.8 car. But it's 993 apples-and-oranges as a car like yours is low miles and nice for the street. My yellow car is out on the edge of things, and best suited for street only in a pinch.
08-26-2010, 04:38 PM
#28
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Jamie's car is a great example of a car that can spend most if its life on the street car but can be very, very potent on the track. The PSS-9's are no match for Motons, but that does not make them terrible dampers, either. Evan's car is an example of a pure track-only weapon. My car would be a good example of a car that can spend most of its life on the track but can be somewhat streetable for fun runs and weekend blasts through the countryside. It has been prepared almost to the hilt for G class (Piper cage, Motons, TRG sway bars, gutted interior, AC delete, Recaro HANS Pro racer driver's seat, Recaro Pole Position passenger seat, G2X data system, radio system. Needs SPA fire system to be installed when I have time) and would be very desirable for anyone doings DE's or with aspirations to run in G or H class.
08-26-2010, 04:39 PM
#29
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Do a search on his name for all threads that he has started.
08-26-2010, 06:50 PM
#30
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It's in the classifieds. Funny, just got off the phone with him.
It's more than bolting on Motons (or your choice of race shock). There's all that rubber that needs to come out, and the uprights, etc. Honestly, I'd stay with a Bilstein/shock package from a known suspension expert, and you'll be 98% of what's possible out of the car.
But back to the price scale, for ~$40K you have my full tilt 3.8 car. But it's 993 apples-and-oranges as a car like yours is low miles and nice for the street. My yellow car is out on the edge of things, and best suited for street only in a pinch.
It's more than bolting on Motons (or your choice of race shock). There's all that rubber that needs to come out, and the uprights, etc. Honestly, I'd stay with a Bilstein/shock package from a known suspension expert, and you'll be 98% of what's possible out of the car.
But back to the price scale, for ~$40K you have my full tilt 3.8 car. But it's 993 apples-and-oranges as a car like yours is low miles and nice for the street. My yellow car is out on the edge of things, and best suited for street only in a pinch.
I played around once with my TRG bars at Cups/Saucers (lots of open track time) and ended up frustrated. I'd rather trust a good race shop to set me up once and forget about it.
I agree with you point regarding the bushings, etc.