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Old 08-27-2011 | 01:30 PM
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For every moron that is "ultra pleased" that his car is "recognized as something special" by some absolutely irrelevant anonymous entity, there will be dozens of us paying higher state taxes on purchase of our 993.

But, hey, as long as he's "ultra pleased", right?
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Originally Posted by 95 C4 993
I really dont care what mine is worth but $26,500.00 on KBB for my 95 C4 with 72,500 on the clock is realistic from an insurance prospective vs. $18kish back a few months ago before KBB was updated.
Like yourself I am not selling mine and don't really care of the value of the car, other than for the insurance value. I just ran mine, a 95 C4 with 56K miles through the KBB. In good condition, suggested retail $40,220. Private party retail, in good condition, $35,870. It looks like their prices are all over the map.
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Mine at 67K as good condition came in as $31810 as a private party sale, using "how do i value my car". Excellent was north of $32k. They must calculate in the value of OBDI in Calif....
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Insurance companies do not use KBB. Not that it matters.
Old 08-27-2011 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nile13
For every moron that is "ultra pleased" that his car is "recognized as something special" by some absolutely irrelevant anonymous entity, there will be dozens of us paying higher state taxes on purchase of our 993.

But, hey, as long as he's "ultra pleased", right?
What is your problem?? Didn't get any last night??
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Old 08-27-2011 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Leon993
Its like real estate: there is appraisal value and then there is real market value
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The thing that does help with the latest KBB pricing is when it comes time for insurance to pay out if the car gets totaled or stolen. At least you have a published figure that can help your case for a decent settlement.
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Originally Posted by 95 NC 993
What is your problem?? Didn't get any last night??
No kidding. Calif tax is based on stated purchase price, not KBB.
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As I live in Canada I had to put in a US zip code so I used the only one I knew offhand-90210. Not sure if KBB's prices are done by geographical area or not.

With regards to using KBB prices for insurance purposes in the case of theft, or a car that has been totaled, I would hope that their figures would be used in determining reimbursement.
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Originally Posted by Ed Hughes
Calif tax is based on stated purchase price, not KBB.
That's very true.

But if the value isn't accepted by the DMV, they will go by the published book value. Although I imagine that's rare and only in obvious tax cheater instances (like somebody saying their used 458 Italia purchase was only $50k )

We do have the registration renewal that's based on book value according to the DMV. I once asked how they determine it and they said it's based on a formula from "various sources like KBB" and the original purchase price.

I have a car that had a high purchase price (tax was high as was the initial registration.) The registration is still high even though the car's real market value is a lot less now.
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Originally Posted by Ed Hughes
No kidding. Calif tax is based on stated purchase price, not KBB.
In many states, including MA, the tax is based on the "book" price for non-dealer purchases and pretty much any purchase from out of state, private or otherwise. That "book" happens to be NADA, but it doesn't change things.

So, yes, no kidding, indeed.
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Oh, the real estate example is very good. You pay tax based on appraisal. Woopeee. "My house is really expensive, I'm glad to pay high taxes". Instead, a number of people in Cali actually petitioned to reduce their tax appraisals since 2008.
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Originally Posted by nile13
In many states, including MA, the tax is based on the "book" price for non-dealer purchases and pretty much any purchase from out of state, private or otherwise. That "book" happens to be NADA, but it doesn't change things.

So, yes, no kidding, indeed.
The "no kidding" was based on my agreement with the question about questioning your "problem" after seeing "moron" in your earlier post, presumably steered at the OP. It had nothing to do with your statement on how taxes are derived.
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Oh, I do think he's a moron, based on a couple of years of observation. I'm sure he thinks as highly of me as well.



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