Originally Posted by race911

I guess I needed to use the "smiley thing" (which I NEVER use)............... But maybe I'm in a weird mood today as I went and looked at an '05 Boxster today. For mid-teens I'm figuring I can't go wrong for a beater/driver.

Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

Its difficult to properly express how important those components are in words. Body language, hand gestures, eye contact, vocal octave range changes and of course, correct profanity are all more effective methods of communication on critical issues that may have an negative impact on someones pocketbook.



Certainly. IMHO, they serve no purpose aside from reducing the drive-by noise signature of the car and thats why they were installed. Based on what I've observed, cars that retain these things suffer more oil leaks and higher levels of guide wear due to higher cylinder head temps. Its important to note that this doesn't always show on the oil temp guage.

Porsche got along very nicely without that undertray for many years ('65-'89) and many of those engines went well beyond 200K with good cooling. 964's and 993's have the capability to exhibit the same longevity as long as they run cool.

Hope that helped,