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Old 05-20-2010 | 01:18 AM
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When I purchased my 95 C2 it was running 5W-40 Shell Helix Ultra. It's also used by a trusted local shop. It's time for an oil change and as I read Mr. Navarro's analysis of many oils he's tested he seems to have a high regard for Brad Penn. I didn't see where he tested the Shell and haven't found much on the Shell except that the Ferrari guys like it. My Porsche has only 20,000 miles and other than leaks that just started from the lower valve covers I don't seem to have any problems. Should I change to Brad Penn?
Old 05-20-2010 | 03:01 AM
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Their is nothing wrong with red line I saw that Brad Penn was set up for older cars they have ZDDP in their oil an a lot of new oils do not have that anymore. they have high zinc and phosphorous additive I do not know that much about oil but that should help the engine to last longer. What I am looking for is anti-wear protection for our older cars. We are so lucky to get to drive them every day I want my cars to last for many years. Vernon.
Old 05-20-2010 | 10:18 AM
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Just received two cases a couple of weeks ago, $92 for the two, delivered to my door with free shipping from Amazon!!
?? Link? I'm only seeing by the bottle for $5 or so, and by the quart case for $60. How did you get two for $92? That's cheaper than having them drop it off at my hotel in Watkins Glen...
Old 05-20-2010 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vernon
Their is nothing wrong with red line I saw that Brad Penn was set up for older cars they have ZDDP in their oil an a lot of new oils do not have that anymore. they have high zinc and phosphorous additive I do not know that much about oil but that should help the engine to last longer. What I am looking for is anti-wear protection for our older cars. We are so lucky to get to drive them every day I want my cars to last for many years. Vernon.
The redline you are using has more ZDDP than the Brad Penn oil.

Brad Penn 15w40
Zinc - 1500 PPM
Phosphorus - 1400 PPM

Redline 15w50 Racing
Zinc - 2500 PPM
Phosphorus - 2400 PPM
ZDDP 1 to 1.2%

Redline 15w50
ZDDP 0.6 to 1.2%

Motul 300v 15w50
ZDDP ~1.4%
Old 05-20-2010 | 12:43 PM
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What has made you decide to change from the Redline oil? Have you had an analysis done that indicates it isn't working for you? Are you using the 15w15 redline?

Redline is a full synthetic ester based oil,interested in knowing why you are changing
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I'm sure Brad Penn is fine, but you're already using Redline, so you have nothing to worry about in the ZDDP dept. - and considering the heat these engines generate, I personally wouldn't consider using anything less than a full synthetic. So why go out of your way to change to something with lesser characteristics? Just curious.
Old 05-20-2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by vernon
Again Thank You so much it was going to be a two hour drive to pick up the oil. .
That would be terrible!
having to drive your car for 2 hours?
The horror!



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Old 05-20-2010 | 12:46 PM
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IIRC Charles Navarro recommended 1200 ppm min for zinc and phosphorous (.12%?) I would think that 2500 ppm would be a cat clogging level.
Old 05-20-2010 | 02:03 PM
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Thanks to you guys I have now seen the light so I will stay with RedLine! Rennlist is such a great place to find out everthing on our cars. I do a lot of work myself on them but I did not know that much about oil so it is great to hear from all of you about this. Thank You for your help.Vernon.
Old 05-20-2010 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by matt777
IIRC Charles Navarro recommended 1200 ppm min for zinc and phosphorous (.12%?) I would think that 2500 ppm would be a cat clogging level.
And the Brad Penn oil is above that, hence the butt saving notice in their website. I don't have to worry, the cat bypasses fix the potential clogging issue for me.
Old 05-20-2010 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JPS
?? Link? I'm only seeing by the bottle for $5 or so, and by the quart case for $60. How did you get two for $92? That's cheaper than having them drop it off at my hotel in Watkins Glen...
Sorry, I don't see the deal now. I think it came to $3.53/QT + tax with free shipping. I do see about a buck a quart more now, with free shipping.

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Old 05-20-2010 | 05:28 PM
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Valvoline VR1 20W-50 (w/ ZDDP) is 50% off at Autozone until 5/31. That's about $27.00 a case. See post from Ed Hughes.
Old 05-20-2010 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trophy
Motul 300v 15w50
ZDDP ~1.4%
Steven, are you still running this in your car? I just switched to it this past weekend and so far so good.

BTW, I was at a shop today and saw the article about the KW V3's featuring your car (European something-or-other Magazine.) Very cool to be flipping the pages while waiting and suddenly seeing your car...
Old 05-20-2010 | 10:14 PM
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Still running it, did a stint with the Redline, but was not happy. Back to the expensive stuff. It really is great oil.

It's a good article, I have bought about 10 copies of it.....
Old 05-21-2010 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by trophy
Still running it, did a stint with the Redline, but was not happy.
What didn't you like?
Old 05-21-2010 | 11:49 AM
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i was getting higher engine temperatures than I got with the Motul, I may have a look at the Redline Racing line, seems to have some better heat characteristics, closer to the Motul, The Motul here is just a little too expensive.


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