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Old 04-09-2010, 05:38 PM
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Have I been doing it wrong all this time? A buddy just told me that when shifting into first from neutral, you are supposed to momentarily slip into second before engaging first to "line up" the gears. I've never heard of such a thing, is this correct? I just engage first straight from neutral, or if it won't slip in directly, I momentarily get off the clutch pedal, blip the gas and then have no problem slipping into first.
Old 04-09-2010, 07:40 PM
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huh? Does your buddy drink a lot?
Old 04-09-2010, 07:48 PM
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He may have heard something slightly different elsewhere, and misunderstood it. I don't understand why 1 would be more easily aligned than 2, but I'm no transmission guy either.

I often slip into 2 momentarily, just to make sure I am hitting 1 and not R "lining up the stick" as it were.

I am new to the 911 gear layout - all my previous manual transmissions had R at the upper end of the pattern (far right, down). And I am still getting accustomed to the new pattern - growing familiar quickly though!
Old 04-09-2010, 07:53 PM
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A quick snick into second actually does seem to synchronise for first better, as far as I can tell. You wouldn't notice the difference unless your synchros are getting worn, but it doesn't seem to hurt either.

Any technical experts care to explain how this really works (or if it's just my imagination?)!

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This came up on one of the other lists earlier this week re: Pete Zimmerman's recommendation from days-gone-by. I THINK it had to do with the 901 boxes. Feel free to correct me............
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I do know that it is easier to select Reverse after going into First...this on my daily drivers.
Old 04-09-2010, 08:50 PM
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This helped in a cold 915 box.
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I wonder how much of the transmission nuances on these cars, particularly slight grind between 1st and 2nd, and notchy engagement from neutral to 1st would disappear after fresh motor mounts...
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I did the motor mounts, but not the transmission mounts and it didn't seem to help much.
There is another thread where many owners say the Redline NS gear oil has improved their shifting quality but I haven't tried it yet. Double clutching or letting the car roll a little can also help get the car into gear, especially early in the morning.
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Originally Posted by race911
This came up on one of the other lists earlier this week re: Pete Zimmerman's recommendation from days-gone-by. I THINK it had to do with the 901 boxes. Feel free to correct me............
Do you remember if that was in this 993 Forum?
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Originally Posted by Leander
Do you remember if that was in this 993 Forum?
964 forum here: https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=21505
Old 04-10-2010, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by zechunique
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I often slip into 2 momentarily, just to make sure I am hitting 1 and not R "lining up the stick" as it were.
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And I find myself in traffic starting off in 2nd gear a lot too, depending on the grade of the road. I tend not to crowd the car in front in traffic when coming to a stop in traffic.
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It's a habit I developed with my '62 356, which was a bitch to get in 1st when it was cold...As was the '72 2002 and the '66 912....I've done it with every manual I've had since but it probably isn't necessary.
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Hi all,newbie here,but owning since 2001 a 993 C4S 3800.

I did all the gearbox already once,but it keeps being reclutant in 1st and 2nd gear going up and down,

so I usually do the same....downshifting before getting in 1st I always go via 2nd.

cheers
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i recall reading this advice in a bruce anderson write-up in the pca mag, or maybe his performance book. by briefly selecting 2nd, it does align the gears for a smoother entry into 1st, and apparently saves some wear on 1st. it's a habit now.


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