Is my Starter going bad?
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I've searched the archives for this one and came back with a 0. My ignition has begun to make some strange noises at start up. This typically occurs when the motor is warm and I go to restart the car. The starter turns over and then makes what I can only describe as a horrible noise, I would describe it like the noise a moto-cross bike makes when you get on the throttle when the bike is still in the air: ringinginginginginging. Not the typical clicking you would expect and I have read about here, but a sound as if teeth are missing on the starter or flywheel. Not a starter problem I've experienced before on any car I've ever owned. Everyone's thoughts would be welcome as this problem doesn't seem to be getting better or going away on its own.
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This does sound very much like a new or rebuilt starter is in your future. The worst part of this (weak solenoid / Bendix) is the potential damage that can result to your ring gear on the flywheel.
One thing you may wish to check before replacing the starter is the connections to it, both positive, solenoid trigger wire and the ground strap.
One thing you may wish to check before replacing the starter is the connections to it, both positive, solenoid trigger wire and the ground strap.
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I'll check that this weekend. I read the starter replacement DIY on Pcar, when will I know it's time to replace it, assuming I want it done before it quits totally?
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You can normally coax a few extra turns out of a dying starter by putting the car in gear and rocking it.
In the days before clutch interlocks, you could just park on a hill...
In the days before clutch interlocks, you could just park on a hill...
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"In the days before clutch interlocks, you could just park on a hill... "
You just reminded me of a buddy I had in high school that ran out of fuel and tried to drive his jeep with the starter motor..hahahaha
You just reminded me of a buddy I had in high school that ran out of fuel and tried to drive his jeep with the starter motor..hahahaha
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For now the noise only seems to occur when the car is warm, not hot, but warm as in it has been sitting for 30, 45, 60, even 120 minutes. Based on the feedback so far I'm hoping for an electrical issue, but won't know until I get in there to check the connections.
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I will also put money on the Bendix drive: my starter suffered a similar fate ... when attempting a hot start, the bendix would engage the ring gear - but slip internally and make the most horiffic noise ( the bendix is a one-way clutch that has an internal series of springs and pawls - when worn and hot, it will not contain the torque of a starter motor). Cold starts were OK .... so if this sounds familiar, a rebuilt starter is in your near future.
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I love working on my 95, but this is not how I wanted to spend my Saturday! It's drive time in Florida!!! Repair time is in the summer when it rains all the time! Any suggestions on where to get the part? Lot's of local places in South Florida, but prices vary dramatically - I usually order or buy over the net. As an aside, the noise is humorous when it happens and people can't figure out how such an awful noise is coming out of such a beautiful car. Funny until it isn't as they say.
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My starter occationally did the same some time ago, my workshop removed the starter, opened it and lubricated the bendix drive and it has been good ever since! Added benefit is that the starter spins much quicker and more freely than before as well... Worth a shot?
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