PPI or walk away?
02-03-2010 | 03:41 PM
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02-03-2010 | 04:24 PM
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There are just more CAB's sold than coupe's. Therefore I would assume that the CAB will have a lower price. However, nice update once with hardback seats, full leather and RSD are hard to find ;-) and maybe / sure worth a premium.
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02-04-2010 | 11:32 AM
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Let me share today's test drive with you and solicit a few opinions. Would you move forward to the Pre-Purchase Inspection stage or pass on the car?
Took a 1997 Porsche Carrera Targa with 60,000 miles out for a spin this afternoon. Second 993 I have driven, so my comparisons are based on the '95 coupe I test drove in December.
Exterior & Interior: Above average condition for the age but no garage queen. One fog light lens cracked the other foglight loose inside the bumper. Found 3 very small stone chips on the body and one door ding. Carpet under the mats looks very worn. No obvious signs of water ingress or damage inside. Targa top & interior screen operates fully each time if not smoothly. Windshield rattles while driving.
Front and rear compartments: clean with no signs of wear, rust, or fluid leaks.
Wheels: No signs of curb rash on wheels
Immobilizer required many tries before car would start. No predictable sequence of button pushing for starting the car. When the car started I thought the idle sounded high although eventually it settled down to 900 RPM. Oil temp gauge appeared to be non functional or at least stayed very low throughout the drive.
Car drives nicely but definitely not meticulously maintained or upgraded in any way. Brakes feel good. Handling is good, actually better than I expected for a stock Targa with no upgrades that is more than likely still on its original shocks and springs. Plenty of power in the lower gears but doesn't feel or sound as smooth and clean as the coupe I drove. The real disappointment was the clutch feel. Way too much clutch travel before finding the friction zone and the clutch pedal was way to stiff, stiffer than my old race prepped 914. Really made the car feel like it was from the 1970's instead of the 1990's. I have a feeling clutch has never been replaced and may be adjusted beyond usefulness. Halfway through the test drive we came upon a wreck and had to sit through some stop & go traffic. The clutch was killer and the check engine light came on. After that the idle would rise over 1200 when the clutch was depressed.
Upon returning from the drive I could smell a bit of hot or burning oil. Popped the rear lid and found no visible leaks. No visible leaks under car either. Test drive while not terrible revealed the car has issues.
The car is more of a shower than a goer and a few items need to be looked after. Owner is open to a pre-purchase inspection but there were enough signs of neglect that I'm more than a bit skittish. VIN checks out on Autocheck which is good. Owner has next to zero service history which is bad.
What say ye oh wise Rennlisters, PPI or walk away?
Took a 1997 Porsche Carrera Targa with 60,000 miles out for a spin this afternoon. Second 993 I have driven, so my comparisons are based on the '95 coupe I test drove in December.
Exterior & Interior: Above average condition for the age but no garage queen. One fog light lens cracked the other foglight loose inside the bumper. Found 3 very small stone chips on the body and one door ding. Carpet under the mats looks very worn. No obvious signs of water ingress or damage inside. Targa top & interior screen operates fully each time if not smoothly. Windshield rattles while driving.
Front and rear compartments: clean with no signs of wear, rust, or fluid leaks.
Wheels: No signs of curb rash on wheels
Immobilizer required many tries before car would start. No predictable sequence of button pushing for starting the car. When the car started I thought the idle sounded high although eventually it settled down to 900 RPM. Oil temp gauge appeared to be non functional or at least stayed very low throughout the drive.
Car drives nicely but definitely not meticulously maintained or upgraded in any way. Brakes feel good. Handling is good, actually better than I expected for a stock Targa with no upgrades that is more than likely still on its original shocks and springs. Plenty of power in the lower gears but doesn't feel or sound as smooth and clean as the coupe I drove. The real disappointment was the clutch feel. Way too much clutch travel before finding the friction zone and the clutch pedal was way to stiff, stiffer than my old race prepped 914. Really made the car feel like it was from the 1970's instead of the 1990's. I have a feeling clutch has never been replaced and may be adjusted beyond usefulness. Halfway through the test drive we came upon a wreck and had to sit through some stop & go traffic. The clutch was killer and the check engine light came on. After that the idle would rise over 1200 when the clutch was depressed.
Upon returning from the drive I could smell a bit of hot or burning oil. Popped the rear lid and found no visible leaks. No visible leaks under car either. Test drive while not terrible revealed the car has issues.
The car is more of a shower than a goer and a few items need to be looked after. Owner is open to a pre-purchase inspection but there were enough signs of neglect that I'm more than a bit skittish. VIN checks out on Autocheck which is good. Owner has next to zero service history which is bad.
What say ye oh wise Rennlisters, PPI or walk away?
