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Old 01-05-2010, 10:50 PM
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I believe the engine tray was fitted by Porsche factory to comply with the tough european drive by noise tests. i.e. it reduces the engine noise outside the car. the downside is that it helps to retain heat in the engine bay which accelerates the hardening of the rubber seals and gaskets leading to premature oil leaks. Does keep the oil of the garage floor though, so mine will stay on until the reseal due at about 140,ooo klm.
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Originally Posted by 993BillW
The Kim?
I can state, without hesitation, that the KIM is vastly superior.


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Old 01-06-2010, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ralphoz
I believe the engine tray was fitted by Porsche factory to comply with the tough european drive by noise tests. i.e. it reduces the engine noise outside the car. the downside is that it helps to retain heat in the engine bay which accelerates the hardening of the rubber seals and gaskets leading to premature oil leaks. Does keep the oil of the garage floor though, so mine will stay on until the reseal due at about 140,ooo klm.
No way!
Old 01-06-2010, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
No way!
You need it for the track Mark , so you can sneek up on your competitors...
Old 01-06-2010, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by H.H.Chinn
^^^^ She has a minimal engine tray on her ^^^^

This is what we did with my engine tray.
I think she would be better if her engine tray was removed.
Old 01-06-2010, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Noah
Anyone in the CT/NYC area have an engine tray they want to get rid of? I'm looking for one (yes, really).
Check out eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...Q5fAccessories

The bidding is at $10.50 and has not yet met his reserve. He claims a new one would cost $1,260.15 from the dealer.
Time to become a horder!

Good luck!
Old 01-06-2010, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by air eater
He claims a new one would cost $1,260.15 from the dealer.
I'll bid up to $800, but that's as high as I can go. This one is in excellent condition, though, so maybe I should go up to $900.
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Originally Posted by Noah
I'll bid up to $800, but that's as high as I can go. This one is in excellent condition, though, so maybe I should go up to $900.
I'll sell you mine for $700.00 including shipping.
Old 01-06-2010, 03:56 PM
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Removing the engine tray is a trend in North America. Not so in Europe.

It is also unproven that its removal will help engine cooling. In fact, it may cause uneven cooling of the cylinders.

There has not been any real testing using correct data collection techniques and result analysis to support the theory.

Let the bun fight begin
Old 01-07-2010, 03:23 AM
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Weren't the 993s the only cars to have these engine trays?

Didn't the 993 cup cars come without these trays?

Aren't the engines and undersides of the 993 and the previous 911 model very similar? I call BS on air not flowing properly and cooling the motor, especially if cup cars didn't have the trays.

If I was concerned about the back end lifting up at speed I'd install an RS spoiler but I really try to keep it under 160 around town.
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The CUP cars are different. They are not concerned about how long the engine lasts...

In spite of your BS call, there is still no, repeat NO empirical study using correct data analysis tools and software on the benefits of keeping or removing the undertray...

The bun fight is ON!!! Kidding of course...
Old 01-07-2010, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ralphoz
I believe the engine tray was fitted by Porsche factory to comply with the tough european drive by noise tests. i.e. it reduces the engine noise outside the car.
That's the truth, per the Porsche factory. Also, the tray, along with all the under sheathing, was counter balanced in the design process of the car to maintain fore and aft weight distribution. Mine has been on since new, mostly in Las Vegas (+100F 8 months out of the year). 90K+ miles, no leaks, no oil consumption, runs cool, no worries. Bad valve guides are caused by, well, bad valve guides.
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Originally Posted by trophy
I think she would be better if her engine tray was removed.
Well...it would certainly make the drive easier.......


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