OT: Father Dying of Cancer
10-06-2009, 03:49 PM
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It is very simple Fire the jerk ! I live in Vancouver and I am having my own health issues as we speak . I am going in for open hearth surgery very soon and the staff , doctors and the surgeon are A+ .
Doctors are just like mechanics and if they are not performing to your satisfaction you fire them . There are better hospital in Vancouver area that specialize in cancer so I would even suggest you get him to VGH Cancer Clinic , they are the very best !
DO NOT WAIT . One phone call can resolve that . Pm if you need help .
Good Luck and God Bless
Guy
Doctors are just like mechanics and if they are not performing to your satisfaction you fire them . There are better hospital in Vancouver area that specialize in cancer so I would even suggest you get him to VGH Cancer Clinic , they are the very best !
DO NOT WAIT . One phone call can resolve that . Pm if you need help .
Good Luck and God Bless
Guy
10-06-2009, 04:39 PM
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KICK HIS ***...NOTHING and I mean NOTHING opens the mind more than pain and fear! Violence is the great equalizer! Outside of this advice I’d pray for peace and your fathers well being!
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KICK HIS ***...NOTHING and I mean NOTHING opens the mind more than pain and fear! Violence is the great equalizer! Outside of this advice I’d pray for peace and your fathers well being!
10-06-2009, 05:00 PM
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the doc has to be governed by a board of some sort. A board of surgeons, board of oncologists, something. Part of that board's responsibility is to hear stuff like this so that it doesn't happen again. This doc has privileges at this hospital and those privileges can be revoked.
Whether you stick with this doc or not, I think whatever board he answers to needs to be notified. It shouldn't be hard to find a board member.
Docs, especially oncologists, need to be filled with compassion. This guy clearly isn't.
Whether you stick with this doc or not, I think whatever board he answers to needs to be notified. It shouldn't be hard to find a board member.
Docs, especially oncologists, need to be filled with compassion. This guy clearly isn't.
10-06-2009, 05:20 PM
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Scott,
Gastric cancer is an unfortunate diagnosis and a 'cure' is difficult even when the tumour is caught early. Partial gastrectomy is usually the surgical approach, but when things spread an operation simply becomes a way to kill the patient earlier than the cancer.
Chemo is not unreasonable as a strategy to debulk the tumour and buy time. It all boils down to quality of life - i.e. will you gain a few weeks/months on chemo but feel ****ty all the time, versus enjoy the time left without the potentially nasty side effects of treatment?
Whatever the choice, your father will still need nutrition, which may require a G or J-tube. Adequate nutrition can be just as big a factor in maximizing his survival time as chemo. If he's having trouble swallowing pills, it sounds like you need to look at options in this regard.
Lastly, pain control (opiods) and bowel management (avoiding constipation from the pain meds) will also be key factors re. quality of life.
Now - on the last and most important topic - this doctor's behaviour. Personally, I find it embarassing to the profession, and anyone caring for Oncology patients who behaves like that needs to have their head re-arranged with a 2x4. I'm sorry you are having to deal with that on top of your father's illness.
I've PM'd you my phone number and I'm happy to help both re. connecting you to the BC College of Physicians and Surgeons and with sourcing a second opinion/alternate physician.
Regards,
Matt
Gastric cancer is an unfortunate diagnosis and a 'cure' is difficult even when the tumour is caught early. Partial gastrectomy is usually the surgical approach, but when things spread an operation simply becomes a way to kill the patient earlier than the cancer.
Chemo is not unreasonable as a strategy to debulk the tumour and buy time. It all boils down to quality of life - i.e. will you gain a few weeks/months on chemo but feel ****ty all the time, versus enjoy the time left without the potentially nasty side effects of treatment?
Whatever the choice, your father will still need nutrition, which may require a G or J-tube. Adequate nutrition can be just as big a factor in maximizing his survival time as chemo. If he's having trouble swallowing pills, it sounds like you need to look at options in this regard.
Lastly, pain control (opiods) and bowel management (avoiding constipation from the pain meds) will also be key factors re. quality of life.
Now - on the last and most important topic - this doctor's behaviour. Personally, I find it embarassing to the profession, and anyone caring for Oncology patients who behaves like that needs to have their head re-arranged with a 2x4. I'm sorry you are having to deal with that on top of your father's illness.
I've PM'd you my phone number and I'm happy to help both re. connecting you to the BC College of Physicians and Surgeons and with sourcing a second opinion/alternate physician.
Regards,
Matt
You my friend are a star.
Scott,
I don't know you but this is a terrible thing made worse by a moron. Stay strong.
Regards
Tal
10-06-2009, 05:48 PM
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The sad truth is, his supervisors will likely be far more interested in covering their own a--es, circling the wagons and protecting the institution than doing the right thing. Unless things are very different in BC.
My wife practices at one of the best hospitals in the country, and is an assistant professor at a medical school you would all recognize, and the place is filled with egos, politics, backstabbing, harassment, arrogance and zero accountability. People who sound exactly like the doctor in question. It's sad but true.
But that doesn't mean your dad has to put up with this particular a--hole.
My wife practices at one of the best hospitals in the country, and is an assistant professor at a medical school you would all recognize, and the place is filled with egos, politics, backstabbing, harassment, arrogance and zero accountability. People who sound exactly like the doctor in question. It's sad but true.
But that doesn't mean your dad has to put up with this particular a--hole.
10-06-2009, 05:54 PM
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10-06-2009, 06:16 PM
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The only thing I would add is that you should try to identify a good doctor who can take over from the jerk doctor before firing the jerk doctor. If you don't, you may end up with someone even worse, and the same admins who tolerate Dr. Jerk's behavior may decide to punish uppity behavior by patients demanding civility from them. In the meantime, bust Dr. Jerk's ***** by demanding better treatment and letting him know he can't ignore your Dad's case, but this will require a commitment of time and emotion from you or another relative.
10-06-2009, 07:05 PM
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Scott,
Gastric cancer is an unfortunate diagnosis and a 'cure' is difficult even when the tumour is caught early. Partial gastrectomy is usually the surgical approach, but when things spread an operation simply becomes a way to kill the patient earlier than the cancer.
Chemo is not unreasonable as a strategy to debulk the tumour and buy time. It all boils down to quality of life - i.e. will you gain a few weeks/months on chemo but feel ****ty all the time, versus enjoy the time left without the potentially nasty side effects of treatment?
Whatever the choice, your father will still need nutrition, which may require a G or J-tube. Adequate nutrition can be just as big a factor in maximizing his survival time as chemo. If he's having trouble swallowing pills, it sounds like you need to look at options in this regard.
Lastly, pain control (opiods) and bowel management (avoiding constipation from the pain meds) will also be key factors re. quality of life.
Now - on the last and most important topic - this doctor's behaviour. Personally, I find it embarassing to the profession, and anyone caring for Oncology patients who behaves like that needs to have their head re-arranged with a 2x4. I'm sorry you are having to deal with that on top of your father's illness.
I've PM'd you my phone number and I'm happy to help both re. connecting you to the BC College of Physicians and Surgeons and with sourcing a second opinion/alternate physician.
Regards,
Matt
Gastric cancer is an unfortunate diagnosis and a 'cure' is difficult even when the tumour is caught early. Partial gastrectomy is usually the surgical approach, but when things spread an operation simply becomes a way to kill the patient earlier than the cancer.
Chemo is not unreasonable as a strategy to debulk the tumour and buy time. It all boils down to quality of life - i.e. will you gain a few weeks/months on chemo but feel ****ty all the time, versus enjoy the time left without the potentially nasty side effects of treatment?
Whatever the choice, your father will still need nutrition, which may require a G or J-tube. Adequate nutrition can be just as big a factor in maximizing his survival time as chemo. If he's having trouble swallowing pills, it sounds like you need to look at options in this regard.
Lastly, pain control (opiods) and bowel management (avoiding constipation from the pain meds) will also be key factors re. quality of life.
Now - on the last and most important topic - this doctor's behaviour. Personally, I find it embarassing to the profession, and anyone caring for Oncology patients who behaves like that needs to have their head re-arranged with a 2x4. I'm sorry you are having to deal with that on top of your father's illness.
I've PM'd you my phone number and I'm happy to help both re. connecting you to the BC College of Physicians and Surgeons and with sourcing a second opinion/alternate physician.
Regards,
Matt
10-06-2009, 08:29 PM
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Im so sorry to hear of your father's illness. I lost both my parents in 1996. They were in the hospital in Florida, where they 'care' for a lot of older people. I immediately saw in the doctors assigned an attitude of 'they've lived long enough-we're not going to do much to save them' attitude. I addressed my concerns with the main doctor and went immediately to the head of the hospital.
I ended up changing both hospitals and doctors. I don't know if I extended their stay on this earth by changing but I do know they were finally getting the care and respect they deserved until the end.
As others have said, go see your father. That is of paramount importance.
Best of luck. Your family is in my prayers.
chuck
I ended up changing both hospitals and doctors. I don't know if I extended their stay on this earth by changing but I do know they were finally getting the care and respect they deserved until the end.
As others have said, go see your father. That is of paramount importance.
Best of luck. Your family is in my prayers.
chuck
