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Old 05-09-2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
Well... there are a couple of challenges with the AWD cars... it could be done but we would need the car in the shop to do it.
The front pivot point for the forward rod is mounted to the torque tube.
Also, the RS lever contacts the center under panel.
I wish there was an easier way but there just isn't. It can be done but requires some metal work.
****, I guess this counts me out. The damn torque tube strikes again.
Old 05-09-2009 | 03:07 PM
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I'm in. PM sent.

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Old 05-09-2009 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jaholmes
****, I guess this counts me out. The damn torque tube strikes again.
sorry... just can't be a bolt in kit...

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Old 05-09-2009 | 11:29 PM
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well if you ever come out with one for AWD/TT, put me down on the waiting list!

and in the meantime I may have to think about getting this for the cab. is this an exchange part or are you selling w/o exchange?

Tx
Old 05-10-2009 | 11:58 AM
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I still don't understand why that fwd rod has to be so long.
Old 05-10-2009 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff96-993
I still don't understand why that fwd rod has to be so long.
Jeff,
It doesn't have to be this long but on the 2wd cars that is where the mount point is designed into the chassis.
The AWD cars have a shorter forward rod.

The rod needs to be of some length to provide the movement necessary for the lever base to move side to side, front to back. The rod needs to pivot at both ends to get the necessary degree of angle.
A rod with rod ends like we are using takes all of the slop out of the design. There is no flex in that SS rod...

Now, if you redesign or replace the entire shift mechanism, it's another story.

There are other solutions out there... that are usually seen in race applications.
http://www.hargettprecision.com/prod...roducts_id=100
Old 05-10-2009 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by David in LA
well if you ever come out with one for AWD/TT, put me down on the waiting list!

and in the meantime I may have to think about getting this for the cab. is this an exchange part or are you selling w/o exchange?

Tx
David,

A bolt in kit for AWD/TT cars is not possible... even if we solved the front mount issue there would be work in dealing with the lower position of the RS shift lever. Not a show-stopper but not a bolt-in-and-drive solution.

There is no exchange on these as it is a complete replacement for the existing parts.
Old 05-10-2009 | 04:18 PM
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it can be a bolt on if you convert your AWD to a RWD.
Old 05-10-2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fredcalero
it can be a bolt on if you convert your AWD to a RWD.
Yes that's right but the RWD conversion involved welding the 2wd/RS shifter box. So no matter how you look at it, there's welding involved.

Apart from that, it's bolt on, except you need to create a hump in the tranny sheet metal cover.. Unless you want to remove it completely but I don't know if that's adviseable..

Regarless, wonderful work you guys! I will be placing an order in due corse..
Old 05-11-2009 | 12:52 PM
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quick note, I was asked by a couple of folks via PM if this kit will fit a 964 C2...

Short answer is "Yes!"
On early 91 (and prior) cars you do have to modify the shift box to accept the bushings for the later cars. Easy to do but not a "bolt in" kit on these cars. This is the same mod needed if you simplay want to install the RS shift parts and has nothing to do with the forward rod portion of the kit.
The RS-style shift rods (aka Golden Rod) also fit the 964 C2.
Old 05-11-2009 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
David,

A bolt in kit for AWD/TT cars is not possible... even if we solved the front mount issue there would be work in dealing with the lower position of the RS shift lever. Not a show-stopper but not a bolt-in-and-drive solution.

There is no exchange on these as it is a complete replacement for the existing parts.
So Mark - Are you saying that I have to live with the plastic cup thing on the end of the rod? I've already had it disintegrate on me once leaving me stuck in 1st gear to get home
Old 05-11-2009 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by David in LA
So Mark - Are you saying that I have to live with the plastic cup thing on the end of the rod? I've already had it disintegrate on me once leaving me stuck in 1st gear to get home
umm... well... err... sorry?
No way to do a bolt in thing

Your new avatar is awesome! Great pic
Old 05-11-2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
umm... well... err... sorry?
No way to do a bolt in thing

Your new avatar is awesome! Great pic
Ah, OK...I guess Bri gets clean diapers this week since I'm not spending money.

Thanks for the compliment....Bri's about 15-16 mos in the pic and already quite rascally!




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