Tire options vs price
04-13-2009, 12:17 PM
#16
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Sumi IS the best bang for the buck!! You really can not beat them.
For all out grip, & a ok price the Direzza is the one to go with. They are basically a road "R" compound.
For all out grip, & a ok price the Direzza is the one to go with. They are basically a road "R" compound.
04-13-2009, 01:39 PM
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A quick thanks to everyone. I need to replace my tires and will probably go with the Sumis. I only need to replace the rears this season and for financial reasons would like to do so. It it unadvisable to run the Sumis on the rear and Bridgestone's up front?
04-13-2009, 02:16 PM
#18
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I think you'll find you can purchase all four Sumi's for less than the price of just two rear Bridgestones (for example).
07-06-2009, 09:54 PM
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Seeking advise on new tires for my 1996 993 (I know another tire post). I currently have S-03 on 17" cup rims (7" fronts, 9" rears). Overall they are ok, but feel they have too much steering response (turn-in is actually too good) and overall grip less seems less than the older Bridgestone S-02. I have done a few track days on the S-03 and they hold up ok, if careful managing the # of hot laps in a row. I also have an 2nd set of 17" rims with older Michelin Sport Cup tires. Love the steering feel of the Michelins.
I have ROW M030 springs with Bilsteins and alignment 1/2 way between stock and RS settings.
Reviewing the current prices at Tirerack, I have narrowed down my choices to:
Michelin PS2, $900 a set
Sumitomo HTZIII, $356 a set (yes that price is correct)
Bridgestone RE050A, $694 a set (includes $100 discount card)
Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec, $537 a set (includes a $75 Amazon card)
All are 205/50-17 and 255/40-17, except the Dunlops which are only available front size is 225/45-17. Also only the Michelin are Porsche N rated.
The Sumitomo fronts are XL load rated, all other are normal SL rating. I'm not sure this is an issue, but I'm concerned since the 993 isn't heavy at the front.
If price was no object, I would pick the Michelin, they get great reviews, my experience is good, and are N rated. The Bridgestones don't get me excited (due to my lukewarm experience with S-03), and Tirerack test test actually rated them lower than the Sumitomos. So I'm seriously considering the Sumitomos or Dunlops.
Thanks ahead of time for any feedback. I'm especially interested in hearing from anyone with 17" Sumitomos or have switched from the S-03 to any of my tire options.
I have ROW M030 springs with Bilsteins and alignment 1/2 way between stock and RS settings.
Reviewing the current prices at Tirerack, I have narrowed down my choices to:
Michelin PS2, $900 a set
Sumitomo HTZIII, $356 a set (yes that price is correct)
Bridgestone RE050A, $694 a set (includes $100 discount card)
Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec, $537 a set (includes a $75 Amazon card)
All are 205/50-17 and 255/40-17, except the Dunlops which are only available front size is 225/45-17. Also only the Michelin are Porsche N rated.
The Sumitomo fronts are XL load rated, all other are normal SL rating. I'm not sure this is an issue, but I'm concerned since the 993 isn't heavy at the front.
If price was no object, I would pick the Michelin, they get great reviews, my experience is good, and are N rated. The Bridgestones don't get me excited (due to my lukewarm experience with S-03), and Tirerack test test actually rated them lower than the Sumitomos. So I'm seriously considering the Sumitomos or Dunlops.
Thanks ahead of time for any feedback. I'm especially interested in hearing from anyone with 17" Sumitomos or have switched from the S-03 to any of my tire options.
07-06-2009, 10:38 PM
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Interesting notes about the Sumis, I have a set on my 993C2S and frankly I don't like them at all! they are noisy like a winter tire, and the grip, uh well on the dry they are not very sticky! I believe the compound is too hard... in the end I hate that noise, it is almost at any speed! Please recommend something else?
"Tired" of the incessant noise...
B.L.
"Tired" of the incessant noise...
B.L.
07-06-2009, 11:40 PM
#24
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Sumis HTZR III's are very quiet and sticky. Which Sumis are you talking about? The II's?
Maybe you have an alignment issue and your tires are cuping? Or running at a wrong PSI's, that would explain your lack of grip.
Maybe you have an alignment issue and your tires are cuping? Or running at a wrong PSI's, that would explain your lack of grip.
07-07-2009, 12:02 AM
#25
Burning Brakes
In the new Car & Driver they tested low cost tires against the Michelin PS2. The Michelin was below the KUMHO, HANKOOK, and the DUNLOP in the dry. The PS2 was the best in the wet. Overall the PS2 didn't shine like I thought it should for the price. I think I will look at the Dunlop Star Spec for my next tires.
07-07-2009, 07:32 PM
#26
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I have the Sumis HTZR II and I noticed that the Porsche dealer on the last yearly checkup wrote regarding the Sumis :"Not Porsche Recommended"...I check the tire pressures regularly... perhaps the HTZ III are a different compound?
Keep the rubber down, eh!
B.L.
I have the Sumis HTZR II and I noticed that the Porsche dealer on the last yearly checkup wrote regarding the Sumis :"Not Porsche Recommended"...I check the tire pressures regularly... perhaps the HTZ III are a different compound?
Keep the rubber down, eh!
B.L.
07-07-2009, 08:19 PM
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07-07-2009, 08:41 PM
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Check this thread out. I'm not alone on this...
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ight=sumitomos
07-07-2009, 08:45 PM
#30
Three Wheelin'
I had the Sumitomo HTZIII on my car when I picked it up. Soon after I got some new wheels that came with s02's, For the money I like the Sumitomo HTZIII better. When it is time for a new set of tires they will be Sumitomo HTZIII for me.
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