Another new guy...want advice
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Another new guy...want advice
Hello All
I have been trolling this forum for a few months and I must say it is a fantastic place to go as a Porsche enthusiast. On that note, I need some advice from all of you, but first, will give you some background.
I have been a huge fan of the Porsche brand for many years; I bought a 1976 911 Targa in 1996 and restored & enjoyed it for 8 years before moving to a 1990 C2. Recently, I was forced to make a tough decision: do a complete motor rebuild/ upgrade and suspension upgrade, or move up to a 993. The reason behind this is that I like to do 5 or 6 track days every year and the car needed work. Bottom line, I have just purchased a 1995 993 with 40,000 miles; black on black, bone stock except for hard shell seats (I will post pics soon).
My question to you all is this: as an occasional track car and part-time daily driver, what would you look to upgrade first?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
I have been trolling this forum for a few months and I must say it is a fantastic place to go as a Porsche enthusiast. On that note, I need some advice from all of you, but first, will give you some background.
I have been a huge fan of the Porsche brand for many years; I bought a 1976 911 Targa in 1996 and restored & enjoyed it for 8 years before moving to a 1990 C2. Recently, I was forced to make a tough decision: do a complete motor rebuild/ upgrade and suspension upgrade, or move up to a 993. The reason behind this is that I like to do 5 or 6 track days every year and the car needed work. Bottom line, I have just purchased a 1995 993 with 40,000 miles; black on black, bone stock except for hard shell seats (I will post pics soon).
My question to you all is this: as an occasional track car and part-time daily driver, what would you look to upgrade first?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Upgrade the suspension.
Even with only 40,000 miles, the stock shocks are likely due for a replacement. When I bought my latest 993, it had 88k miles with the original shocks and it had all the handling prowess of a Buick.
I'm happy with Bilstein HD's and the Euro (M030) suspension. It lowers the car just enough without slamming the suspension and making entry/exit out of driveways a chin-scraping affair. Track junkies may recommend an adjustable suspension (PSS9 or PSS10) so that may be something to look into as well.
Congrats and good luck!
Even with only 40,000 miles, the stock shocks are likely due for a replacement. When I bought my latest 993, it had 88k miles with the original shocks and it had all the handling prowess of a Buick.
I'm happy with Bilstein HD's and the Euro (M030) suspension. It lowers the car just enough without slamming the suspension and making entry/exit out of driveways a chin-scraping affair. Track junkies may recommend an adjustable suspension (PSS9 or PSS10) so that may be something to look into as well.
Congrats and good luck!
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Three Wheelin'
+1 Upgrade the old suspension to something a little firmer. Take the car out to a few track days and see what you think needs to be improved first. Track pads and some R comps will make it feel like a different car.
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+1 on the suspension. A lot of choices out there but, you cannot go wrong with PSS9 or PSS10 package. Bruce Anderson has some good advice on the topic in the Performance Handbook.
+1 on the suspension. A lot of choices out there but, you cannot go wrong with PSS9 or PSS10 package. Bruce Anderson has some good advice on the topic in the Performance Handbook.
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I would also investigate installing larger sway bars "while your in there" doing the suspension, otherwise you might get significant understeer on your track days.. C4 cars (like mine) are particularly prone to understeer and mine plowed like crazy with stock set-up.. My sway bar upgrade completely transformed the car on the track.. I mean it felt like a different car... I love it now.. Completely neutral..
The C2 cars may have less of an issue with understeer with stock set up.. Fellow Rennlisters can comment and will know.. I definetely reccommend looking into this option for your car.. Sway bars are not too expensive..
The C2 cars may have less of an issue with understeer with stock set up.. Fellow Rennlisters can comment and will know.. I definetely reccommend looking into this option for your car.. Sway bars are not too expensive..
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Thanks guys, appreciate the comments. I'll start with the suspension, give it a day or two at Mosport, and see how it feels. For tires, I have Advan A048s on my 964 which have been phenomenal at the track- have any of you run these on a 993?
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Nordschleife Master
I'm going to say get tires first, then brake pads, then do suspension.
I don't care how good your suspension is, if you got crap rubber, the car will handle like crap.
Really, go out & have some fun with it, then decide what you need.
I don't care how good your suspension is, if you got crap rubber, the car will handle like crap.
Really, go out & have some fun with it, then decide what you need.
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Do nothing to the car but drive it at a few track days, see what it does. It's going to be a completely different experience from your other 911's. After you get familiar with it, and if your not interested in just making it look better, go for the safety aspect (a more supportive seat, and at least a roll hoop). You'll be amazed how fast and how hard you can thrash a stock suspended car on track. When you've exhausted that, then go for suspension, tires and proper alignment (aggressive camber, corner balancing, etc.....)
Do nothing to the car but drive it at a few track days, see what it does. It's going to be a completely different experience from your other 911's. After you get familiar with it, and if your not interested in just making it look better, go for the safety aspect (a more supportive seat, and at least a roll hoop). You'll be amazed how fast and how hard you can thrash a stock suspended car on track. When you've exhausted that, then go for suspension, tires and proper alignment (aggressive camber, corner balancing, etc.....)