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Old 04-03-2009, 10:59 AM
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I was showing a friend the new exhaust note after installling a cat-bypass. He loved the sound and said I should also consider changing the final drive. Said that I would never need to get to 270kph.

Has anyone with a tiptronic done this ? If so - what difference do you get ? Cost ? Pros / Cons ?

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Old 04-03-2009, 10:25 PM
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39 views - no comments !!!
No even - get a manual.
Come on boys.
Old 04-03-2009, 10:37 PM
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Why don't you convert your car to manual? A friend of mine did on his 964 with used parts.
Old 04-03-2009, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by David A
Why don't you convert your car to manual? A friend of mine did on his 964 with used parts.
I have the list of parts if anyone cares to try....
Old 04-04-2009, 05:04 AM
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Hard to convert to manual ? Is it worth it ?
I'm pretty fond of the tip after living with it for 4 years.
What about the original question on changing the final drive ?
Gotta be someone here who's thought along the same line.
Old 04-04-2009, 02:01 PM
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There are no gearing options for a Tiptronic.
Old 04-04-2009, 10:12 PM
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I thought long and hard about what I could do with my original Targa Tip. And my conclusion was, not much. This is the problem. The tip only has 4 gears, the last of which is an overdrive and equivalent to the manual's 6th gear. That leaves you with 3 gears. Of the three you have first which is already quite short. So effectively you are down to 2 driving gears to the manual's 4. And that is the problem. Shortening the final drive will make 1st even less useable apart from starting (the RS goes the other way and has a taller first gear, to I presume allow more use of it). My conclusion was that I needed a manual.

With my Project Orange, I started with a tip and converted it to a manual. As people point out above, this is a big job and it is preferrable to buy an original manual car. But in Hong Kong I looked for a long time and could not find one. They are there, but in small quantities and mainly tightly held, and maybe if you are patient you can find a good one. Given the scarcity of manuals in Hong Kong there are shops here with a lot of experience in doing this. Bit it is a costly conversion and you need to source a manual box. I got one from a mob in the Netherlands. Supposedly Porsche specialists with a lot of parts. I had a few problems with the box they sent me and needed to repair a few things. I would not do business with them again. If you are getting a box, make sure it is Euro spec and not US spec as the concensous is that the latter's intermediate gears are too tall.

Since you are also in HK if you want any more details or would like to talk, let me know. After all the money (and anger over the manual box not being in the condition promised) it was well worth it for me over the Tip. But only do this if you are going to keep the car a long time.

One last thing. The Tip is the best and worst auto of its time. First for the best: a not widely know thing about the Tip, and something which I learnt from a knowledgeable soul on this board, you can blip the throttle in between shifting and the gear actually engaging so as to match engine revs on a down shift. The bad point is that I think it has the worst software when left to shift by itself - it is as respnsive as a dead cows ****! I never left it in auto mode.

Hope this helps.
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I learned to do this fairly early when I bought my HK cab 10+ years ago...makes a huge difference IMHO when driving the tip in manual mode. Left foot braking also helps in driving fast with a tip and auto mode is really only useful for when you need your left hand to hold a Starbucks coffee!

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....a not widely know thing about the Tip, and something which I learnt from a knowledgeable soul on this board, you can blip the throttle in between shifting and the gear actually engaging so as to match engine revs on a down shift. The bad point is that I think it has the worst software when left to shift by itself - it is as respnsive as a dead cows ****!....
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Yeah - I figure that with a tip it's pretty limited to what mods you can do. I don't think I up for converting to manual - but that's a pretty brave thing to do Chris - congrats on that one. True that on finding a manual in HK - I don't think I ever saw one after living there for 8 years straight.

Thanks for the driving tips on the tip David. I will try those things and hope to squeeze some more performance out.

I think for the time being I better leave the car as is and enjoy it for what it is.

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