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sorry to bring an obsolete post back to live. I wonder if there is anyway to tell if the factory sticker X50 option on a 1997 993 TT built is 430hp or 450hp. Any thoughts?
I'm working on a window sticker for a 1997 Turbo. I have both the hood sticker and PCNA build sheet. This is a 993770 car (Turbo) and NOT a 993780 (Turbo S) car.
Both the hood sticker and build sheet confirm X50 (Powerkit), X54 (Stainless Steel Exhaust Pipes), and XE7 (additional oil cooler) which comprises option group E50 which is what I "think* is the full Powerkit option. This is a C02 US Emissions/market car originally sold in San Juan -- so not a ZZZ car.
Ive done dozens of 993TT and 993TTS cars but never come across a standard 993TT with the Powerkit -- just when you think you've see it all you haven't. I've "done the search" and information seems to be somewhat conflicting.
All the paperwork from Porsche indicates the car has the Powerkit, but I've never actually seen a 1997 911 Turbo window sticker with the Powerkit option on it. It almost seems like this combination is even rarer than a 993 Turbo S.
So...shed whatever light you can because I've been unable to dig up any pricing for this option, let alone spot an original sticker demonstrating how this was line-itemed.
My understanding was the 993 Turbo S was basically a Powerkit car, but all of this now leads me to believe they were two separate animals. Now I'm led to believe the 993TT with the Powerkit is more or less a Turbo S without the Turbo S bodywork?
Whatever knowledge you can provide would be grateful. Thx.
My car is a turbo but with the 450bhp engine the difference between the 430 and 450 option was the k24 turbos from what I have been told, very rare cars, mine also has the benefit of been a 1998 manufactured car, so really one of the last.
Think the three options it has extra is upgraded ecu, extra front oil coolers and the k24 turbos, And The original turbo s four tailpipe Exhausts that i have in The garage.
Turbo buyers were not forgotten and were offered the X50 option. This performance increasing package WLS 1 ( WLS= Werkleistungs-steigerung ) was introduced with the all new 993 Twinturbo. It consisted of ECU software tuning with increased boost pressure and power increased from 408 to 430 BHP. As of MY 1997 the WLS 2 package was available, this time Porsche went all the way with increased capacity turbo's and twin plug ignition ( standard Turbo has single plug ignition ) producing a very healthy 450 BHP. This WLS2 package was standard on the Turbo S. Interesting note is that the US model Turbo S's were still only available with the WLS 1 package due to emission rules.
Turbo buyers were not forgotten and were offered the X50 option. This performance increasing package WLS 1 ( WLS= Werkleistungs-steigerung ) was introduced with the all new 993 Twinturbo. It consisted of ECU software tuning with increased boost pressure and power increased from 408 to 430 BHP. As of MY 1997 the WLS 2 package was available, this time Porsche went all the way with increased capacity turbo's and twin plug ignition ( standard Turbo has single plug ignition ) producing a very healthy 450 BHP. This WLS2 package was standard on the Turbo S. Interesting note is that the US model Turbo S's were still only available with the WLS 1 package due to emission rules.
I think there's a error in that article. I have read that too and AFAIK there wasn't any 993tt (any variant) ever produced from factory with twin ignition or twin plugs.
Hoping someone can help me out.
I'm working on a window sticker for a 1997 Turbo. I have both the hood sticker and PCNA build sheet. This is a 993770 car (Turbo) and NOT a 993780 (Turbo S) car.
Both the hood sticker and build sheet confirm X50 (Powerkit), X54 (Stainless Steel Exhaust Pipes), and XE7 (additional oil cooler) which comprises option group E50 which is what I "think* is the full Powerkit option. This is a C02 US Emissions/market car originally sold in San Juan -- so not a ZZZ car.
Ive done dozens of 993TT and 993TTS cars but never come across a standard 993TT with the Powerkit -- just when you think you've see it all you haven't. I've "done the search" and information seems to be somewhat conflicting.
All the paperwork from Porsche indicates the car has the Powerkit, but I've never actually seen a 1997 911 Turbo window sticker with the Powerkit option on it. It almost seems like this combination is even rarer than a 993 Turbo S.
So...shed whatever light you can because I've been unable to dig up any pricing for this option, let alone spot an original sticker demonstrating how this was line-itemed.
My understanding was the 993 Turbo S was basically a Powerkit car, but all of this now leads me to believe they were two separate animals. Now I'm led to believe the 993TT with the Powerkit is more or less a Turbo S without the Turbo S bodywork?
Whatever knowledge you can provide would be grateful. Thx.
I do have 97' RoW 993tt with pretty much every single Turbo S parts optioned from factory (I'm not the first owner) including the X79 side vents , full aero 2 kit, Sport seats, etc.
In the option list from factory of my car it states the "X50" Power Package 430cv and after more options described it appears again the code as "E50". What's the difference between X50 and E550? I'm not sure, my guess is the same. But sure enough the "X50" options does belong to 993 as well, not only 996.
However, my car is currently a 450cv package as the first owner most likely purchased the power kit from Porsche just when he got the car (most likley Porsche didn't offer the bigger turbos and DME for 450cv to be builded upon request) and this consist from "Turbo S DME" ( I have the P/N somewhere) and K24's turbos.
My car didn't come with 02 sensors. I retrofited only two of them after "geolab" posted the TSB/info about these power packages available for the 993tt that stated for certain markets that didn't come with emission regulations if upgrading the DME for 450 CV goal it was necessary to retrofit only two 02 sensors and the DME no longer can carry the fuel mixture in closed loop I think.
My car also came from factory with the XE7 "turbo S oil cooler"..I can ost the full option list if you want to take a look.
Forgot to say, all Turbo S/ GT2 RoW specs were factory equipped with K24 turbos (450cv), however the US(not sure if Canadian too) Turbo S were builded with K16 turbos making 430cv. Of course for both market types , different DME's.
yes - X50 is indeed a very rare option for USA. i believe only 11 cars came into North America (and all for USA) with that option and only for 1997 model year.
Interesting. I had a feeling this would be a bigger challenge than I initially thought once I figured out I wasn't dealing with a Turbo S.
On the 996s, when you ordered the power kit, it was line itemed on the sticker as "Turbo Power Kit 450 HP" and it cost $17,880 (in 2003).
The next question logical question is, how was it line itemed on the 993TT, and just as important, what was the cost. That's my assumption -- it was simple a line item since it was E50 and appeared on a normal 993TT sticker as an option similar to any other option like Infra Red Security System or Supple Leather.
Last edited by StuttgartStudios; 05-22-2016 at 01:39 AM.
Do you want me to get a photo of my sticker? It's original and has the items listed just like the sports seats.
I would love to see it. I really doubt it was equipped with larger turbos (K24) from factory. All I l know that was unique and reserved strictly for the Turbo S and GT2 ( RoW specs both).
Also I know the original owner of my car couldn't add that option when he optioned the car, factory wouldn't let him. Instead he purchased the kit separately and retro fited it short after the car arrived to the country. That kit also contained if I'm not mistaken (unless he purchased it separately) the dual exhaust tips.
He also saw short after he recieved his car, a Turbo S came out from factory available, he wanted to order it but our country/region was unable to get it no matter what (probably was reserved strictly for certain markets due the low production).
Here you go, removed the chassie number, it's a German car originally.
XE7 Additional oil cooler in front (only for cars with manual gearbox)
XLB Twin pipe exhaust ends
XLC Turbo Powerkit 331 kW
The XLC kit is the wls2 with the k24's etc
Mine didn't come with XLC option, something tells me that this wasn't a option back then (at the end of 96' year) I believe but I could be wrong as the original owner was/is very exquisite when optioning their cars and allways go for almost full options and rarest starting for the max power performance options.
Perhaps this XLC options was restricted only for europe? Or maybe it became available late 97' and/or for 98' year build? 331kw translate to 444HP which effectively is 450CV.
I know my car was builded with code "C35 Sud-Central-Americ" maybe we got some restrictions or just maybe wasn't available at the time.
Indeed, must be a rare option for the 933tt. Got any photos of your car? I would love to see some
03-31-2016, 12:50 PM
Mine didn't come with XLC option, something tells me that this wasn't a option back then (at the end of 96' year) I believe but I could be wrong as the original owner was/is very exquisite when optioning their cars and allways go for almost full options and rarest starting for the max power performance options.