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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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In anticipation of installing a lwf/RS clutch kit, a Steve Weiner chip, top end rebuild, M030 suspension, etc...I decided to give my ISV a thorough flushing with some carb cleaner.

Getting the ISV out wasn't too difficult, but I did have to use a 7mm nut driver to loosen the rear clamp screw since I couln't get enough leverage using a screwdriver. I used a 7mm socket to tighten the rear clamp when reinstalling the ISV.

As you can see from the pics, the valves were absolutely gummed up with crud and I used about 2/3 of a can of carb cleaner to flush everything out, using paper towels and q-tips along the way. I was satisfied that everything was clean when the fluid that came out was clear and the valve moved freely.

A test drive confirmed that the idle was much smoother and the car drove like some cobwebs had been cleaned out. It's such an easy diy everyone should do it periodically.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Nice ! Big difference.
Who is going to be doing the work on your car?
I am in North Jersey.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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I don't see a difference. LOL!

Man, that's a lot of carbon!!!
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Default Nice work!

Its great when that little gate breaks free again and it goes clink, clank when you rotate it with your wrist.

Here's mine from a couple months ago.....
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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I like to do that at each oil change while the oil is draining,...
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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What I don't understand is that the ISV is on the intake side, ie pre combustion, so where is all the carbon build up coming from?

As a comparison, here is an intake valve before the 120K rebuild. Bottle of Techron through the last tank before every oil change, and Chevron gas only. Would the Techron/Chevron gas do the same for the ISV?

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry Adams
As a comparison, here is an intake valve before the 120K rebuild. Bottle of Techron through the last tank before every oil change, and Chevron gas only. Would the Techron/Chevron gas do the same for the ISV?
Wow. I'd be interested to see what the back of that intake valve looks like but that port looks remarkably clean.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tony soprano
Wow. I'd be interested to see what the back of that intake valve looks like but that port looks remarkably clean.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Thanks for the pics Terry. Although that new pic shows the valve face. I was curious what the back of the intake valve looked like. The link below has a side-by-side comparison of two intake valves run on different grades of fuel - cheap vs. tier 1. After seeing your intake ports, if I wasn't a Techron believer before, I sure am now.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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I just did it to the 95 yesterday, same thing, lots of crap in there. I also removed the intake boot & looked at the throttle body, noting there, it was clean.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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tony s, I did not take a pic, but it did look somewhere between the face and the port. Much closer to the port.

Which is why I still have the question, where is all the carbon coming from in an ISV?
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry Adams
tony s, I did not take a pic, but it did look somewhere between the face and the port. Much closer to the port.

Which is why I still have the question, where is all the carbon coming from in an ISV?
My thought is it's a low pressure area, & stuff gets stuck up there, then bakes in. kind of like the rear end always having much more dirt on it them any other place on the car.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Terry Adams
Which is why I still have the question, where is all the carbon coming from in an ISV?
The oil tank vents (red arrows below) directly in front of the throttle-body and into the ISV. The image below is from a 964 but the setup is materially the same on the 993.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Thanks. Now I get it.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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OK, that looks impressive, but, what is an ISV and where is it?
Mine might need cleaning too.
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