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Old 01-05-2008, 04:51 PM
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Hey Chris -

Too Cool! You know I'm 'in' for 2 sets.


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Old 01-05-2008, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott 1996 993c2
Hey Chris -

Too Cool! You know I'm 'in' for 2 sets.


Scott
When I did suspension on your black car, I noticed your forward bushing was 'due'-- however, the rivi-blu-beauty with 20k miles? I would doubt it
Old 01-05-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chris walrod
When I did suspension on your black car, I noticed your forward bushing was 'due'-- however, the rivi-blu-beauty with 20k miles? I would doubt it
Thanks Chris ... I've been feelin' some woble in the black car ... none in the rivi blue one yet though ... I know you're busy ... but would like to do this ASAP ... would like to take you up on a core exchange or covering the labor ... I drive and also supply the java or the beer ... as the case may be.

Have a great trip to th UK. Say 'HI' to Pam from Lisa & I.


Scott

PS -- you may have another suspension install customer in Lisa if she decides to take the plunge this year for the rivi blue cab.
Old 01-05-2008, 05:57 PM
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Chris,
Awesome work on the bushings!

Will an alignment be required after install?
Old 01-05-2008, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gordo993
Chris,
Awesome work on the bushings!

Will an alignment be required after install?
A good question. In a perfect world, yes. Realistically, perhaps not.

The caster eccentric needs to be marked for its position prior to removing the control arm so that it can be replaced in the same position it was before. Here is where it gets complicated. Since the old foreward bushings naturally have quite a bit of lateral movement, replacing the bushings *could* reposition the arm about its pivot centerline. Changing caster also effects camber and toe. How large could this potential change be? I honestly dont know as I havent spent a lot of time measuring before and after geometry. Or, I should say, the digital inclinometer I used to measure before and after couldnt detect a difference.

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Old 01-05-2008, 07:13 PM
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Chris,
Second the comments for a great product, especially timely as the rubber bushings in the fleet are becoming, well - quite senior ....

Regards the queries of a need for realignment, my thought would be to press the ball joint out of the hub/spindle - leaving it attached to the LCR with the caster eccentric untouched: as long as the new bushings preserved the coaxial line of the OEM rubber ones, the alignment should remain unchanged.
Old 01-05-2008, 09:45 PM
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Or, I should say, the digital inclinometer I used
Uh oh--new toy alert!
Old 01-05-2008, 09:50 PM
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Chris.

I checked the 964 this morning and there is some movement of the control arm. I have not checked the 993 yet, but since the two cars have the same mileage and are only 2 years apart I assume they will both need replacing.

I am anxiously awaiting the DIY and then we can coordinate after your return from the UK.
Old 01-05-2008, 10:02 PM
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Well done, Chris.

I'm in for a set too after your return from the UK. Have a great trip, I have always enjoyed my visits there.

Thanks.
Old 01-07-2008, 01:22 AM
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I have complete the DIY guide, but its too large to post. Its a word.doc and need to figure out how post it such that all can have access to it. I dont have an .FTP site. Anyone care to host it for me?

Of course, I will email it to anyone who asks. Also, I will email it to all of those who have purchased, my pleasure.

BTW, the first draft of the DIY was 20megs! Yikes! I found that if you right click any of the images, click format picture, click the picture tab then click the compress button, it will decrease the file size dramatically. Down to 571K in my case.
Old 01-07-2008, 01:45 AM
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Chris,
If it's not too late, put me down for one set. Thanks in advance.
Old 01-07-2008, 02:01 AM
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You the man, and not a moment too soon, just started noticing some wobble in the lase week or so.
Old 01-07-2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by long_beach_968
You the man, and not a moment too soon, just started noticing some wobble in the lase week or so.
Did TC find that you had worn bushings at the tech session last month???
Old 01-07-2008, 02:35 PM
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Wow this is a huge development. Nice going Chris. Three questions:

1. Do you need a press to get the old ones out?

2. Should I expect slightly increased harshness from the front suspension?

3. What is the expected service life of the urethanes?
Old 01-07-2008, 03:16 PM
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ok. Newbie question.
What is there to gain and how do you tell if you need it? I have 90K on my 95 cab. I did change the suspension (HandR) last year and replaced the sway bars with the turbo.
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