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Old 12-05-2007, 05:24 PM
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Has anyone installed a stronger/better than OEM clutch in their car? If yes, what brand, and why. Thanks.

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Old 12-05-2007, 05:26 PM
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RS Clutch is stonger - goes nicely with a LWF - electrifiying responses....!
Old 12-05-2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Surj-993C2S
RS Clutch is stonger - goes nicely with a LWF - electrifiying responses....!
Thanks. I know she revs (up and down) quicker with the LWF, I just know I couldn't stand the "rocks in a coffee can" sound when the clutch is disengaged...and the stalling seems a hit or miss.
Old 12-05-2007, 07:13 PM
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Cool Rocks in a Coffee Can....

It is a bit of an annoying sound....but worth it for me.

My Competition Director at the Porsche Owners Club feels that the dual mass flywheel is potentially dangerous, and has approved swapping out the dual mass for 993RS and 993 Clutch and pressure plate without penalty. He feels that they have the potential to let go...and what a mess would follow.

2007 PCA Club Racing rules effecting 964, 968, 993 cars, state these are legal in PCA stock class...they are in effect encouraging racers to change out the dual mass for a solid flywheel.
Old 12-05-2007, 07:30 PM
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Question $64,000 ?

Although I don't want to digress into the LWF question because I'm more curious about stronger clutches, (Sachs, Centerforce, et al.)

Is there any way to eliminate/suppress the rattling in the LWF application, other than standing on the clutch at every stop?
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The RS clutch is more of a street clutch than a super-sturdy track clutch. If you want a fantastic DE/race clutch, try the RSR version.
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standard 993 turbo clutch would be a tough clutch for the NA 993 without the rattle.
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I have a LWF and RS clutch and I get no rattle at idle. ??? No issues with stalling either.
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I thought Sachs made the factory clutches for Porsche - is this wrong?

As far as the "rocks in a coffee can" sound, I feel it adds to the rawness and purpose of the car. It's what makes a Porsche a Porsche. If you want smooth and quiet, go buy a Honda.
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The "rocks in coffee can" for a track car is accepted. But for a street car can cause some embarassment, at time it sounds like your car have thrown a rod, or sounds like there are pieces of metal loose in your transmission. I would serious suggest someone to listen to a car first before committing to this mod.
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Originally Posted by Robin 993DX
The "rocks in coffee can" for a track car is accepted. But for a street car can cause some embarassment, at time it sounds like your car have thrown a rod, or sounds like there are pieces of metal loose in your transmission. I would serious suggest someone to listen to a car first before committing to this mod.

+1!

The other alternative I have heard of but doesn't get any "boardplay" is of the MWF (Medium Weight) that I believe RUF uses.
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Dan, I don't think this is for you at all.. LOL!

Since you couldn't even handle the little valve noise from the air cooled engine... you thought your engine was blowning up. LOL!
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RS + LFW here......and yes it rattles a little......but I kind of like it.......faster spool up is worth it
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Doesn't Andial also make a MWF - also eliminates the noise....
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Originally Posted by Robin 993DX
Dan, I don't think this is for you at all.. LOL!

Since you couldn't even handle the little valve noise from the air cooled engine... you thought your engine was blowning up. LOL!
Robin! Why are you bustin' my b@lls like that!!! LOL!!! But you are right!

The original intent of this thread to was see what the RL consensus was around stronger/better clutches since I'm a believer in replacing whatever needs to be replaced with something stronger than the original. So far, we've got:

RS Clutch
RSR Clutch
Turbo Clutch


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