Seinfeld has the 1st and last air-cooled 911
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But that's just me.
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The guy recently posted this at the bottom of the web page:
Breaking news: On 20 November 2007 somebody has put a link to this page on Rennlist and some people in the forum state, that "I have an ax or two to grind". Comment is also "Aha. And he has absolutely nothing to gain financially from that drivel as an owner of another '64 car. Aha, aha."
Funny, that some people seem to care more about my financial interest than about the fraud itself. The '64 911 community is small and these cars will certainly meet on a concourse some time. I do not have the illusion that my car should be worth more than Seinfeld's car, on the contrary. Number #300049 is without doubt the most beautiful car I have ever seen. But my background knowledge (wrong place, wrong time...) of the 'original factory restoration' makes it hard to accept if Seinfeld's 'First' with its factory certification takes away the glittering prizes, leaving other (genuine) restorations with the judgement 'nice try'. And why is a member of the '64 911 community not entitled to call for foul play within that same community? Imagine that my #300170 would have been beyond restoration. Would anybody accept if I transferred the VIN numbers 300170 into a '65 or '66 body, converted the details and presented the result as a genuine '64 911? I guess not, but my name is not Seinfeld and my restoration workshop is not Porsche AG. In case you overlooked the link, these are the Porsche comments.
Breaking news: On 20 November 2007 somebody has put a link to this page on Rennlist and some people in the forum state, that "I have an ax or two to grind". Comment is also "Aha. And he has absolutely nothing to gain financially from that drivel as an owner of another '64 car. Aha, aha."
Funny, that some people seem to care more about my financial interest than about the fraud itself. The '64 911 community is small and these cars will certainly meet on a concourse some time. I do not have the illusion that my car should be worth more than Seinfeld's car, on the contrary. Number #300049 is without doubt the most beautiful car I have ever seen. But my background knowledge (wrong place, wrong time...) of the 'original factory restoration' makes it hard to accept if Seinfeld's 'First' with its factory certification takes away the glittering prizes, leaving other (genuine) restorations with the judgement 'nice try'. And why is a member of the '64 911 community not entitled to call for foul play within that same community? Imagine that my #300170 would have been beyond restoration. Would anybody accept if I transferred the VIN numbers 300170 into a '65 or '66 body, converted the details and presented the result as a genuine '64 911? I guess not, but my name is not Seinfeld and my restoration workshop is not Porsche AG. In case you overlooked the link, these are the Porsche comments.
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Blah, blah, blah.
As a frind of mine once said "Do we really care about the plastic cups that we win?" referring to the prizes we got for amature rallying in Europe. Apparently this person cares about "glittering prizes" from concourses. Somehow it sounds way too insignificant.
An oh, lancelot, trolling is a bad, bad thing. Bad. But if you'd feel better, send me your address I'll send you some of my "glittering prizes". Don't worry that they are actually won _driving_ the car, not wiping dust off of it. They still have high bling factor.
As a frind of mine once said "Do we really care about the plastic cups that we win?" referring to the prizes we got for amature rallying in Europe. Apparently this person cares about "glittering prizes" from concourses. Somehow it sounds way too insignificant.
An oh, lancelot, trolling is a bad, bad thing. Bad. But if you'd feel better, send me your address I'll send you some of my "glittering prizes". Don't worry that they are actually won _driving_ the car, not wiping dust off of it. They still have high bling factor.
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Sorry to resurrect an old thread......
The website owner seems to have tons of knowledge on 64 911s and really put together a very interesting website.
I think what we have here is an extremely passionate owner/enthusiast of early 911s. The first 911 is nothing short of the holy grail for such enthusiasts and learning that it has dubious authenticity is akin to a 5 year old learning that there is no Santa Claus. In short, this is serious business to these guys and I do not judge him (them) for it.
I do believe he is a little harsh on Jerry Seinfeld, a fellow enthusiast. When I have Jerry's money, I will build a super garage with all the toys as well
The website owner seems to have tons of knowledge on 64 911s and really put together a very interesting website.
I think what we have here is an extremely passionate owner/enthusiast of early 911s. The first 911 is nothing short of the holy grail for such enthusiasts and learning that it has dubious authenticity is akin to a 5 year old learning that there is no Santa Claus. In short, this is serious business to these guys and I do not judge him (them) for it.
I do believe he is a little harsh on Jerry Seinfeld, a fellow enthusiast. When I have Jerry's money, I will build a super garage with all the toys as well
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If there really is something "fishy" here and you have first hand knowledge or suspicion, I for one would be interested in what you have to say....rather than hearing you defending the contents of your website w/o disclosing that you are the author.
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Greetings,
Arthur from The Netherlands.
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Hi Arthur from The Netherlands!
I had a very enjoyable evening reading your website -- one of the most informative on the early 911. Thanks for posting in this thread that I started! I hope you will consider me your "Rennlist Goodwill Ambassador".
I had a very enjoyable evening reading your website -- one of the most informative on the early 911. Thanks for posting in this thread that I started! I hope you will consider me your "Rennlist Goodwill Ambassador".
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