Our new house's garage is about to be epoxy'd. What kind do I tell my painter?
#33
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Steve,
My first garage epoxy paint lifted badly. It was acid etched and painted with Benjamim-Moore 2 part epoxy. The second time around we scuffed the concrete with a floor sander and used Griots epoxy paint. I am convinced the scuffing made all the difference, but the Griots paint does appear to be a harder product and tougher than the BM. The Griots is not lifting at all - it's a great product. I will offer that if you only want to do it once....scuff the concrete and use Griots epoxy - you will not have any problems. Here are a couple of pictures:
This is Griots tan:
Benjamin-Moore Gray:
My first garage epoxy paint lifted badly. It was acid etched and painted with Benjamim-Moore 2 part epoxy. The second time around we scuffed the concrete with a floor sander and used Griots epoxy paint. I am convinced the scuffing made all the difference, but the Griots paint does appear to be a harder product and tougher than the BM. The Griots is not lifting at all - it's a great product. I will offer that if you only want to do it once....scuff the concrete and use Griots epoxy - you will not have any problems. Here are a couple of pictures:
This is Griots tan:
Benjamin-Moore Gray:
__________________
991.2 GT3 RS Weissach Racing Yellow
991.2 Turbo S GT Silver
991.2 GT3 Chalk (Manual)
2022 Cayenne White
former 1972 911T white, 1984 911 3.2 Targa black, 993 cab white, 993TT arena red, 993TT silver, 996TT speed yellow, 991.1 GT3 white
www.speedtechexhausts.com
info@speedtechexhausts.com
Testimonials SpeedTech Exhaust Videos facebook
991.2 GT3 RS Weissach Racing Yellow
991.2 Turbo S GT Silver
991.2 GT3 Chalk (Manual)
2022 Cayenne White
former 1972 911T white, 1984 911 3.2 Targa black, 993 cab white, 993TT arena red, 993TT silver, 996TT speed yellow, 991.1 GT3 white
www.speedtechexhausts.com
info@speedtechexhausts.com
Testimonials SpeedTech Exhaust Videos facebook
#35
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Great advice to do the scuffing and the Griot's Garage epoxy. I'll tell my paint guy that we have to do it this way.
Great looking garage and cars. Wish I had the resources to do the wood accents and rugs.
Steve R
Great looking garage and cars. Wish I had the resources to do the wood accents and rugs.
Steve R
#36
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Steve,
You will be very pleased with the Griots. The last thing you want is the paint to start lifting in the first year (which is what happened to me) and suddenly the great paint job looks horrible. Acid etching is supposed to "rough up" the concrete, but it's a marginal technique. A floor sander with a rough grit sandpaper really "roughs it up good", so the paint bonds well. You can always add wood accents, etc. later - especially if you're not having to spend money to repaint.
You will be very pleased with the Griots. The last thing you want is the paint to start lifting in the first year (which is what happened to me) and suddenly the great paint job looks horrible. Acid etching is supposed to "rough up" the concrete, but it's a marginal technique. A floor sander with a rough grit sandpaper really "roughs it up good", so the paint bonds well. You can always add wood accents, etc. later - especially if you're not having to spend money to repaint.
#37
Rennlist Member
Make sure you pick up every last bit of dust and debris if you sand-
#39
Instructor
I did my floor about 6 years ago when we bought the house. I did both bays of a 2 car garage with Home Depot epoxy paint. I did not clean the floor with anything other than water, as the floor was brand new and unstained. I did not do the flakes, as I knew they would not be even and would be tough to clean. Instead, I left it completely smooth, shiny grey. I clean it with fantastic and a rag once a month - looks like new!
except for one thing. You guessed it. Tire lift off. BUT..here is the interesting thing.
The side of the garage that gets the 993 is perfect. 1 coat in 6 years, and not a single issue. The side of the garage that gets my wife's Honda Odyssey is ruined! I've put down 4 coats in 6 years - still ruined. Heavy car, hot tires, and a driver who insists on turning the wheels when the car isn't moving does the floor in.
Just my $0.02.
except for one thing. You guessed it. Tire lift off. BUT..here is the interesting thing.
The side of the garage that gets the 993 is perfect. 1 coat in 6 years, and not a single issue. The side of the garage that gets my wife's Honda Odyssey is ruined! I've put down 4 coats in 6 years - still ruined. Heavy car, hot tires, and a driver who insists on turning the wheels when the car isn't moving does the floor in.
Just my $0.02.
#40
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Q - How do you avoid lift off?
A - Not travel into space?
Lift off... not a term I'm familiar with here, but it sounds like the epoxy literally lifts up and gets ruined from poor application, hot tires (never heard of that term either before, other than on the track) and turning your wheel alot in the garage?
Epoxy sounds like a recipe for dissapointment, but I'm doing it anyway.
Steve R
A - Not travel into space?
Lift off... not a term I'm familiar with here, but it sounds like the epoxy literally lifts up and gets ruined from poor application, hot tires (never heard of that term either before, other than on the track) and turning your wheel alot in the garage?
Epoxy sounds like a recipe for dissapointment, but I'm doing it anyway.
Steve R
Last edited by Steve 96C4S; 11-18-2007 at 12:45 AM.
#42
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Glad I'm not in that part of the floor covering business!
Steve R
#45
Rennlist Member
Q - How do you avoid lift off?
A - Not travel into space?
Lift off... not a term I'm familiar with here, but it sounds like the epoxy literally lifts up and gets ruined from poor application, hot tires (never heard of that term either before, other than on the track) and turning your wheel alot in the garage?
Epoxy sounds like a recipe for dissapointment, but I'm doing it anyway.
Steve R
A - Not travel into space?
Lift off... not a term I'm familiar with here, but it sounds like the epoxy literally lifts up and gets ruined from poor application, hot tires (never heard of that term either before, other than on the track) and turning your wheel alot in the garage?
Epoxy sounds like a recipe for dissapointment, but I'm doing it anyway.
Steve R