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Old 11-03-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Widest Tire on 7 in Wheel?

RL'ers is it possible to put a 225 tire on a 7 inch wheel? The 205's just seem to damned scrawny.
Old 11-03-2007, 06:57 PM
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I think <Tirerack.com> has a calculator for such things. If it does work, I suspect it would be "just barely".
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I run 225 tires on 7" Cup 2 wheels. It is no problem at all.

No, it's not "just barely". It's perfectly fine.
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A 225/45R17 will work, assuming you are on 17's .... 7" is the minimum width recommended for a 225.
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I have personally seen a 225 tire (a race tire, which are wider than indicated usually) on a 5.5" wheels.

Anything is possible. 225 on 7" is not a problem and far from any limit in my opinion.

Look at it another way. 225mm is 8.85". You can look at the mounting width of a particualr tire, but if we assume that the mounting width is about equal to indicated tread width, the 7" wheel is still fine. Again as a rule of thumb is that any wheel that is within 2" of the mounded tire width is fine.
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Originally Posted by 993James993
I'm seeing more and more of these posts. What is the reason to go with wider tires? Doesn't the change in the sidewall geometry lower performance?
James 225/255 combibnation makes the 993s more neutral, taking way some of the inherent understeer.

As far a geometry cnange, the stiffer lower ratio sidewall and wider patch will more than compensate for it, especially in this case.
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Originally Posted by nile13
James 225/255 combibnation makes the 993s more neutral, taking way some of the inherent understeer.

As far a geometry cnange, the stiffer lower ratio sidewall and wider patch will more than compensate for it, especially in this case.
Nile...thanks for the input. I have a C4 and am running the stock 17" cups, and will need new shoes before I can move up to 18's. But it's been hell trying to find 17" tires, that are wider but still within the % difference to keep the 4WD working properly.

993James...the intent is simply a greater contact patch, since this is literally your only connection to the road. I heard somewhere that the CP for motorcycles when they are cornering is less that than of a quarter! Which explains why some cars can keep up with them (or not that far behind) in the twisties.
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plus they look cool
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Cool Well.....

TOYO RA-1 235/45/17 and 275/40/17 works fine on my car...same tires on Chris Walrod's car...+ you can drive these tires to the track. With a hardness rating of 100, they don't pick up every little thing on the roar.

I have also seen Kumho 245s mounted on the 7" front wheels. They seem to fit, strange as it may seem..don't know the rear size.
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Every tire manufacturer specifies it's recommended wheel width for every tire it sells. Just look at the specs at the manufacturer's site. Tirerack also has these specs listed for most of the tires it sells.

for the sample tires I looked up, the recommended widths are as follow
for a 225/45x17 7 - 8.5
for a 225/50x16 6 - 8
for a 225/40x18 7.5 - 9
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Everything being equal, an oversize tire on a narrow rim will give relatively more grip and feel relatively worse on turn-in and in transitions.

A 225/45-17 sidewall is the same height as a 205/50-17 sidewall. So you're definitely not gaining the sort of shorter/stiffer sidewall benefit as you do by going from 17s to 18s.

An oversized tire on a narrow rim is very common in autocross where grip trumps all else.

On the street, a well-supported sidewall from a properly sized wheel makes an enormous difference in feel and turn-in, which you can appreciate EVERY time you turn the steering wheel.

The best example from my personal experience was on my old golf. I had 205/50 tires on 7.5" wheels. The feel was brilliant, steering was telepathic and I could tell exactly what the tire was doing. Later on as I was parting out the car, I installed the same tire on the stock 6.5" wheels. Then it was squirrelly, with indeterminate turn-in, and it was very hard to tell where the front end would bite or slide.

Good handling is not the same as ultimate traction!
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Originally Posted by RallyJon
Everything being equal, an oversize tire on a narrow rim will give relatively more grip and feel relatively worse on turn-in and in transitions.

A 225/45-17 sidewall is the same height as a 205/50-17 sidewall. So you're definitely not gaining the sort of shorter/stiffer sidewall benefit as you do by going from 17s to 18s.

An oversized tire on a narrow rim is very common in autocross where grip trumps all else.
That's not true at all

Originally Posted by RallyJon
On the street, a well-supported sidewall from a properly sized wheel makes an enormous difference in feel and turn-in, which you can appreciate EVERY time you turn the steering wheel.
That is true

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