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Old 10-15-2007, 02:29 PM
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If I ever have to do it I am talking to Geoff/Racetech (I believe that is correct, as I want his input on his experience with the neinmeister stuff) and Ninemeister - I mean, while one is in there, might as well get some power.... or maybe todd knighton and go 3.8 tt...

Hopefully, never. No oil consumption.
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The shop in question -- Exotech in Plaistow NH -- is run by a guy named Mark Nadler; he has a good reputation locally among the PCA and race crowds, and builds a lot of race motors, he's a racer himself. I think for him changing valve guides is as easy as changing his socks, so it's just time and materials. He uses the phosphorous bronze guides, I believe. But it is basically a one-man show run out of his barn and you have to be patient because there are always a bunch of race motors being torn down at the same time.

All I know is the car has not used a drop of oil in 6000 miles and it runs beautifully now.
Old 10-15-2007, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vjd3
The shop in question -- Exotech in Plaistow NH -- is run by a guy named Mark Nadler; he has a good reputation locally among the PCA and race crowds, and builds a lot of race motors, he's a racer himself. I think for him changing valve guides is as easy as changing his socks, so it's just time and materials. He uses the phosphorous bronze guides, I believe. But it is basically a one-man show run out of his barn and you have to be patient because there are always a bunch of race motors being torn down at the same time.

All I know is the car has not used a drop of oil in 6000 miles and it runs beautifully now.
How far is he from downtown Boston?

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Old 10-15-2007, 04:06 PM
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About 40 miles or so, just over the border into NH (near Haverhill MA). The commuter rail runs up there from North Station, actually.
Old 10-15-2007, 06:46 PM
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If you search under Mark Nadler you will find posts of mine talking about my great dealings with Mark. Mark did a very long list of work for me called me when it was done ... I hopped on a plane from L.A. picked up the car in N.H and drove 4300 miles home (the car has been perfect for 3 years). If you are looking for a shop that will hold you hand...not the place for you. However when it comes to knowledge of the Porsche kind...he is your man.
Old 10-15-2007, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar
If you search under Mark Nadler you will find posts of mine talking about my great dealings with Mark. Mark did a very long list of work for me called me when it was done ... I hopped on a plane from L.A. picked up the car in N.H and drove 4300 miles home (the car has been perfect for 3 years). If you are looking for a shop that will hold you hand...not the place for you. However when it comes to knowledge of the Porsche kind...he is your man.
For the money, and the opportunity to drive a newly/perfectly tuned/refurbished engine back across the country....now THAT's what I'm talking about!!!! The 993is my first Pcar, and I drove her 1600 miles from Denver....the only music...that flat 6 and hendrix. Glorious, absolutely glorious (except for the wolf I almost hit at 90mph, because the standard lights are horrible). I wonder how many guys would be brave enough to do that with their F or L cars.
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Originally Posted by WHB Porsche
Not entirely true. For those who don't browse it, we recently had this discussion on the Turbo forum.

Bad valve guides won't always cause the valve to seat improperly, they just won't guide it properly every time. It is possible to do a leakdown test and have the valve luckily (or unluckily) seat in the proper position, yielding good numbers. However, if the engine was turned over and the leakdown performed again, the numbers would probably be worse as the valve would not seat properly.

In conclusion, bad leakdown numbers can be indicative of shot valve guides but a car with bad guides CAN occasionally seat properly and give okay leakdown numbers. The thread on the turbo forum is here:

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-turbo-forum/383791-lower-valve-cover.html

It was originally about valve covers, but don't worry, it quickly drifted.
As Kevin from UMW worded very well in that thread. "once wear has been established a leakdown will show the worn valve guide or guides.. The seat/valve margin is so small that once wear is present you will see the leakage past the valve to seat margin."

A leakdown test should always be done, along with measuring the amount of wobble on the valve spring end.

-Jay
Old 10-15-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by vjd3
The shop in question -- Exotech in Plaistow NH -- is run by a guy named Mark Nadler; he has a good reputation locally among the PCA and race crowds, and builds a lot of race motors, he's a racer himself. I think for him changing valve guides is as easy as changing his socks, so it's just time and materials. He uses the phosphorous bronze guides, I believe. But it is basically a one-man show run out of his barn and you have to be patient because there are always a bunch of race motors being torn down at the same time.

All I know is the car has not used a drop of oil in 6000 miles and it runs beautifully now.
Thanks Vic, I have family in Arlington if and when I need it, I'll be making the trip up north.

BTW, see you still dating the same girl, very nice....
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I'm guessing you mean the car ;-)

Going for a record on this one.
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Originally Posted by vjd3
I'm guessing you mean the car ;-)

Going for a record on this one.
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I'm at the go / no go decision for a top end rebuild. I need to pass my inspection and can't with the check engine light (CEL) on. I'm trying to decide between having my independent mechanic do it or the best Porsche dealer mechanic in the area. Any thoughts? Any risks to having an independent guy do the work?

- Scott
Old 10-17-2007, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by skegler
I'm at the go / no go decision for a top end rebuild. I need to pass my inspection and can't with the check engine light (CEL) on. I'm trying to decide between having my independent mechanic do it or the best Porsche dealer mechanic in the area. Any thoughts? Any risks to having an independent guy do the work?

- Scott
Where are you located? Are those the only two choices? If the indy has lots of Porsches around, I'd almost go with any indy. The person actually turing the wrenches on your car is likely to have much more experience.

I noticed a bunch of motor specialists in the back of Excellence last night. Please disreagard the Motor Meister ad. Or maybe they're just in Pano....



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