Real world comparison: 993 and 964
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between the 3.2 Carrera and the 993 in both styling and engineering. Alot
of technological changes would come starting with 964 series. One important
point about the 964 C4 is that it's all wheel drive system is much more
complex and expensive to repair than the 993 C4. Something to consider.
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Ah! Looking at your car I bet you no long remember the stock days. Beautiful machine.
Damn...I was trying to avoid that car. I'm not sure yet...humm...maybe between the 993 TT and the 9964S.
I think the 964 is the perfect first 911.
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Ah! Looking at your car I bet you no long remember the stock days. Beautiful machine.
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Having owned both for a number of years and driving them extensively I would say the 993 is a better car.
However, as said by so many, there are differences in character and performance.
The 964 has a number of teething problems. Case in point. The C4 brain is also very sensitive to water intrusion through the wiring harness. Corrosion ate the connector pins and receptacle. The 993 set those issue strait.
Now, most of the 964 issues probably have been fixed by now by previous owners, so it sort of evens things out a little.
However, as said by so many, there are differences in character and performance.
The 964 has a number of teething problems. Case in point. The C4 brain is also very sensitive to water intrusion through the wiring harness. Corrosion ate the connector pins and receptacle. The 993 set those issue strait.
Now, most of the 964 issues probably have been fixed by now by previous owners, so it sort of evens things out a little.
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I forgot to add one thing...
To paraphrase a quote from my local indie wrench: "The 964 is like a good girlfriend. Fun for a while. The 993 is like the girl you introduce to your parents and tell them you're going to marry her"
To paraphrase a quote from my local indie wrench: "The 964 is like a good girlfriend. Fun for a while. The 993 is like the girl you introduce to your parents and tell them you're going to marry her"
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I am fortunate enough to get to drive a 993RS CS & 964 RS CS on track, both good cars..ultimately the 993 has more mechanical grip and I find the power steering more accurate at speed, on track rubber at speed the 964 can take a lot of arm work through the turns...the 93 engine has more torque, but the 964 desite not having varioram, comes on cam and flies,,,both great experiences...for me the 93 edges it, but it is a bit like saying I prefer the brunette supermodel to the blonde
I have been driving my RS cars back to back this week. The 964 seems to be way quicker, more snap than the 993. Once you get the 993 in the higher revs it really takes off and feels faster. The gear box for the 993 feels more track focused?
I agree with the supermodel comment.
Back to the post at hand.
A good 964 is hard to find, but a great value in my book. They can go nothing but up in value.
There are a boat load of really nice 993 cars. If you look hard there are deals to be had in the high $20K range.
If you can find a nice low mile 964 jump on it. It may take some time. ( for a good coupe ) Cabs seem to be more plentiful. I feel the 964 has bottomed out and on the way up...
I drive a RSA more than any car I have. I love it. It gets 10K miles a year, rain or shine. Good A/C. great ride, It I only could have one daily driver that would be the one. ( GT3 exluded )
Good luck, either way you win.
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yeah...but after a while the sexual performance of your wife becomes boring...her breasts begin to sag and then comes the mistress... and then the divorce and you end up with a younger girl (aka. watercooled Porsche)
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And you are happy for 2 weeks because she is fast and furious and makes your head turn, but she is also high maintenance and has no soul. Then you regret your decision and wished you were back to your true love. (aka. aircooled - aka true Porsche)
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You are lucky! If I would have asked that to my wife, she would have said.."Get the mistress... I'll get the Porsche, the house, the kids..."
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Oops, I never thought of that option. I'm lucky that she allows me to indulge myself in most of my passions. Her birthday tomorrow morning though, so I have bought her a lovely fat diamond ring (makes up for forgetting her birthday last year, oops again!)
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I have the same issue here in Argentina but with an ugly twist: I have saved U$S 50K to buy my dream 911 and that´s what a nice 964 costs here. To buy a 993 you need between 60 and 70K and I´m talking about US dollars
also there are very few cars to choose from so I´m still waiting
also there are very few cars to choose from so I´m still waiting
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I have the same issue here in Argentina but with an ugly twist: I have saved U$S 50K to buy my dream 911 and that´s what a nice 964 costs here. To buy a 993 you need between 60 and 70K and I´m talking about US dollars
also there are very few cars to choose from so I´m still waiting
also there are very few cars to choose from so I´m still waiting
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You guys are too funny...isn't it amazing how life can imitate car ownership
Anyway, since I started the post I think I can throw a new wrinkle in the mix...its seem a lot of people (me included) are under the assumption that if you have an DD and don't live in the sun all year round, you get a C4. However, I am curious how the C2's handle in the rain. Now, I'm not talking about driving it to the limit but just getting in the car in the rain/light snow and driving home from work. After all, the weight is over the power wheels which will give optimal traction.
What are the C2 owner's thoughts on using the car as a daily driver (except when you know it's going to snow and can drive the 4x4 truck). What would you choose if you were driving 80% dry and the rest rain and occasional time you get caught in the flurries.
My intention is to determine whether I should be looking for only c4's or if I should look for both and take the best one that I find without consideration of the drivetrain.
Regards,
Adam
Anyway, since I started the post I think I can throw a new wrinkle in the mix...its seem a lot of people (me included) are under the assumption that if you have an DD and don't live in the sun all year round, you get a C4. However, I am curious how the C2's handle in the rain. Now, I'm not talking about driving it to the limit but just getting in the car in the rain/light snow and driving home from work. After all, the weight is over the power wheels which will give optimal traction.
What are the C2 owner's thoughts on using the car as a daily driver (except when you know it's going to snow and can drive the 4x4 truck). What would you choose if you were driving 80% dry and the rest rain and occasional time you get caught in the flurries.
My intention is to determine whether I should be looking for only c4's or if I should look for both and take the best one that I find without consideration of the drivetrain.
Regards,
Adam