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Old 09-12-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default 1997 C4S for Sale

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Old 09-12-2007, 01:45 PM
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Price?
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:33 PM
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THis guy has been advertising this car for over six months. When I contacted him back in April, he wanted around $60k for it.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:50 PM
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His photography style is incredibly frustrating. Lots of akward crops; sometimes "artistic," but never showing the detail that car buyers are looking for!
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:54 PM
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Unless he has the year wrong, he created that ad one year ago.
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:37 PM
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I just spoke to him today. His name is Jim and this is what I downloaded:

Technically, it is a 3-owner car, but effectively a 2-owner. His asking price is $59,900. The first owner traded it back to the dealership after about 2-3 weeks for an unknown reason. Jim is the 3rd owner. It is a California car, originally purchased in Beverly Hills. He bought it with about 30K miles 5 years ago and has added approx 3,500 miles since. Purely a garage queen and driven rarely. He's selling because he doesn't have the room for it anymore -- recently married and wants to start a family, yadda yadda. Similar story that ails many a Porsche owner, it seems. He doesn't want to use it as a DD given the number of miles he has to commute. According to Jim, it is in immaculate condition and mechanically needs nothing. He sounded like a nice guy on the phone. PPIs are welcome.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:20 PM
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Not a fan of GQs.

If you don't have paint chips or squashed bugs on your mirrors you're probably not getting full enjoyment from these cars.

But to each his own.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:58 PM
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Shows up on Craigslist every week or so. I think the market is speaking quite loudly to him, even if he refuses to listen...........
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by race911 View Post
Shows up on Craigslist every week or so. I think the market is speaking quite loudly to him, even if he refuses to listen...........
Yesir. I think "Price is firm" originally at $62. Then "price is firm" at $59.5.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:31 AM
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:46 AM
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what a dumbass..

It doesn't even have a factory aerokit... For that price... PASS.

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very annoying website
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ritter View Post
Not a fan of GQs.

If you don't have paint chips or squashed bugs on your mirrors you're probably not getting full enjoyment from these cars.

But to each his own.
Fundamentally, I agree. I don't believe you own a Porsche to let it sit in a garage. It should be driven. But if you are looking to buy one, it's nice to find a clean example. His price is too high, but whomever buys it will get a nice 993.

I'm in the market for a 993 C4S. Out of curiosity, what is the consensus on fair market value for this 993 that is advertised? Please post your thoughts.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:43 PM
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With out looking at the car I would say that an offer to Jim for $55 ,000 should seal the deal. I am in the same boat as Jim with my C2S. I have had it for sale for a year at the asking price at $52,000. I never drive the car and just dont need it. Still I know what I paid for it, how long I looked to find it so I am going to keep it untill I get the money.
The way I see it and if you look at WillHoit Enterprises website which is where my car was purchased he gets the low mileage cars and sets the guidelines for pricing. Right now he has S cars with 6,900 miles for $76K, 10,000 miles car for 74K, and has a silver C4S with 25,000 miles for 59K.
This puts Jims car in the ball park asking price. I looked high and low for my car and bought it from Willhoit with 18,000 miles and am very happy with the deal. The extra price for low miles is nothing compared to the overall lack of wear on the car. My car looks and drives like it just rolled off the showroom
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:15 PM
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Having just purchased my C4S last year from RPM and looking around at the other guys with low mileage S cars (Willhoit, etc..) and their pricing, for a private sale, I think his $59.5k price is 5 - 10k too high.
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