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Old 04-29-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Ideal Oil Level on Dipstick? Street driving vs Autocrossing

I am looking for some opinions as to what level on the dipstick is ideal for street driving and autocrossing.

I am refering to a fully warmed up engine.

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Old 04-29-2007, 02:16 AM
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I have the best luck with mid to low end of the stick. Track or autocrossing.
Old 04-29-2007, 02:57 AM
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I do the same. The idea is that oil expands as it gets hotter ; if you do a "hot" run were you get a spike in the temperature you want to make sure there is enough expansion room. Besides that even at the low point there is plenty of oil in the engine/tank.

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Old 04-29-2007, 09:22 AM
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Mid to low for me, too.
Old 04-29-2007, 10:31 PM
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Has anyone tried to "adjust" the sender arm to get the gauge to match up with your ideal level? For me, below half way on the dipstick doesn't even register on the gauge.
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Originally Posted by RallyJon
Has anyone tried to "adjust" the sender arm to get the gauge to match up with your ideal level? For me, below half way on the dipstick doesn't even register on the gauge.
Ignore the gauge, just watch the oil pressure level. When it comes time to add oil, the dipstick is the only reliable indicator: when hot, fill no more than half way between the dipstick marks.
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Originally Posted by Dan in Florida
Ignore the gauge, just watch the oil pressure level. When it comes time to add oil, the dipstick is the only reliable indicator: when hot, fill no more than half way between the dipstick marks.
what do u watch for on the oil pressure level? major drop?
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Originally Posted by godxilla
what do u watch for on the oil pressure level? major drop?
If the oil pressure on the gauge fluctuates engine damage is imminent.

The whole point of the dry sump system is that, assuming the oil level is up to scratch, the flow and pressure won't be affected by cornering forces because the oil supply is coming from a large tank rather the oil pan.
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Originally Posted by phelix
If the oil pressure on the gauge fluctuates engine damage is imminent.

The whole point of the dry sump system is that, assuming the oil level is up to scratch, the flow and pressure won't be affected by cornering forces because the oil supply is coming from a large tank rather the oil pan.
+1 !!

My guage is a great indicator that I need to add oil. Actually, on both of my 3.6l cars the guage is very accurate when compared to the dipstick. All depending on oil temp, of course.
I've gotten to the point with both cars that I trust the guage to add proper oil amount, when oil is "hot".
That said, great tips on oil level when tracking... I will definitely use the stick when getting ready for DE this year. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by phelix
If the oil pressure on the gauge fluctuates engine damage is imminent.

The whole point of the dry sump system is that, assuming the oil level is up to scratch, the flow and pressure won't be affected by cornering forces because the oil supply is coming from a large tank rather the oil pan.
This is true, although I recall some people reporting sporadic low oil pressure at idle, sometimes even dipping down to 1 bar and the oil pressure light coming on. Not sure if this would mean imminent damage or not...
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Originally Posted by phelix
If the oil pressure on the gauge fluctuates engine damage is imminent.

The whole point of the dry sump system is that, assuming the oil level is up to scratch, the flow and pressure won't be affected by cornering forces because the oil supply is coming from a large tank rather the oil pan.
or you can have a bad connection on the sender unit, or a bad sender unit, or....

but I do agree is prudent on a car that has been OK and then starts to fluctuate this much to shut the car down and check it out before proceeding...

BTW I have seen the case of weird oil pressure readings caused by a bad sender unit.

Cheers,

Mike
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Originally Posted by pcar964
This is true, although I recall some people reporting sporadic low oil pressure at idle, sometimes even dipping down to 1 bar and the oil pressure light coming on. Not sure if this would mean imminent damage or not...

1 - 1.5 bars @idle while oil is REALLY hot isn't that abnormal is it?

The owners manual even states the low pressure light may come on at idle when the oil is REALLY hot. If stuck in traffic on a hot day with with temps hot enough to engage my low speed fan my pressure has dropped to 1.5 bars and i didnt think much of it after reading the owners manual.. once the RPMs come up the pressure is back to 4/5.

I'm still going to install the high speed fan mod..
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Originally Posted by phelix
If the oil pressure on the gauge fluctuates engine damage is imminent.

The whole point of the dry sump system is that, assuming the oil level is up to scratch, the flow and pressure won't be affected by cornering forces because the oil supply is coming from a large tank rather the oil pan.

I assume you mean under load and not at idle?
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what length of running time is enough to heat up the engine to the point where you can accurately measure the oil level?
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Originally Posted by godxilla
what length of running time is enough to heat up the engine to the point where you can accurately measure the oil level?
When the oil thermostat opens and the temperature comes back up to where it was right before the thermostat opened.


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