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Old 04-12-2007, 02:08 AM
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Ok - so what are the collective thoughts on desirability & collectibility of the 1997 993 Carrera 2 S?

I'm looking at 2 C2 S's - one is midnight blue with dove grey int & has 6 speed manual trans.
The other is the special order Vesuvius colour with the unique Vesuvius int appointments but is Tiptronic.
Both are identical condition, odo reading similar, etc.

So it's manual trans versus Vesuvius special options. Which do you think will be more collectible over time?

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The gerenal consensus has been that only the 1998 models get a price premium due to their year.
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I would have to say the 6 speed for a couple reasons but they might not be applicable to you. First, do you want to drive an automatic sports car? That is purely subjective and it's your money. Second, if you find another car in the future and need to sell this one, you will have a larger market for the 6 speed IMO.
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Originally Posted by 911kiwi
Ok - so what are the collective thoughts on desirability & collectibility of the 1997 993 Carrera 2 S?

I'm looking at 2 C2 S's - one is midnight blue with dove grey int & has 6 speed manual trans.
The other is the special order Vesuvius colour with the unique Vesuvius int appointments but is Tiptronic.
Both are identical condition, odo reading similar, etc.

So it's manual trans versus Vesuvius special options. Which do you think will be more collectible over time?

Gary
I guess the key word is collecitble, the Vesuvius is very rare but how desirable the colour is, can't say for sure. U got me..
Old 04-12-2007, 09:37 AM
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6 speed
Old 04-12-2007, 09:52 AM
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Go with the Vesuvius! Ofcourse, I am not at all biased .

No but seriously, I would definately go with the manual transmission midnightblue car. I love the Vesuvius and everything about it but automatic transmission on a Pcar? Not if you ask me. Would be fine on a daily driver in dense traffic but not otherwise.

Are you in Europe? The Vesuvius cars are not very common in the states, whereas in Europe, the Vesuvius is the most common colour on the 993 2S as stated by geolab in the following thread:

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-forum/297816-anyone-know-how-many.html

"Only information I could get from porsche germany is the main color code percentages for the carrera S ROW. Good luck!

20 % Vesuvio
15 % black
15 % Navy blue
15 % polar silver
15 % arctic silver
12% yellow, red, white
8 % special orders"

So over time I do think a manual aspirated car would be more collectible. But then again, you don't buy a Pcar to collect it, you buy it to drive it
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For me, the 6 speed would trump color.
Old 04-12-2007, 12:32 PM
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Imho,
Desirability: High
Collectability: ?
My advice: Buy what you like (to drive and otherwise).
IF in time it becomes more vauable.....bonus.
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I love the Vesuvio and think it will be a great collector car but not in auto.
Go for the 6 speed in Blue.
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a purple tip car should be sale proof.
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6 speed. No question. The tip is worth far less to most people.

None of these cars is truly rare, even the '98s. But nice ones will cost you.

Good luck.

BTW - Blue cars are fastest.
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Thanks for your opinions guys! The Vesuvius appealed due to its special order options, but the tip. was a sticking point, I admit. Of course my wife would prefer it but not my preference.
Will let you know how it turns out. Better go & do an oil change on the '72S. Again - thanks to everyone who replied!
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Working the tip in manual mode doesn't suck, you know...
Old 04-13-2007, 03:03 AM
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From your user name I gather your in NZ as I am.

If your a driver buy the 6 speed if your a cruiser buy the tipo. It really comes down to what suits your driving style most. I'm not saying tipo's cant be driven fast as I've been around the track in a well driven tipo.

Resale wise in NZ 6 speeds are few and far between and hold their value MUCH better than tipos due to their more limited numbers. Manuals are generally more desirable here. I owned a 95 993 C2 6 speed for nearly 2 years. Brought it for $96K with 36K on the clock and sold it for $95K with 56K on the clock, by word of mouth, within one week. I've seen many tipos that have been for sale here for years. Currently there would be over 15 993 tips for sale as low as $50K and I'm not aware of any manual 993's for sale although I am a little out of the loop.

I presume this is the Vesuvius 993 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-95319761.htm

The silver 993 6 speed from WGTN that was on TM recently sold to a guy in Auckland.

If it was me I'd buy the manual but that's partly due to resale. If you don't mind me asking what are the details on the manual as I may know the car and be able to give you some insight into it. PM me if you want.
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6 speed for sure


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