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Old 09-09-2006, 07:51 PM
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I was wondering is anyone might know how many 96 black/black 993 4S
were imported to the US. I've heard maybe 200?
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Old 09-09-2006, 08:25 PM
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Dont know about black/black but here are the numbers of vehicles. I'd say roughly 200 + or - 50 or so.

Here is total car production

993 coupe 14541
993 cab 7730
993 Targa 4583
993 C4 coupe 2884
993 C4 cab 1284
993 S coupe 3714
993 C4S coupe 6948
993 Turbo 5978
993 Turbo S 345
993 GT2 172
993 GT2 EVO 21
993 RS 1014
993 GT1 road version 2
Worldwide total 49216

1994:
14 Carrera coupe
3 Carrera Cab
Total = 17 (note: These were probably press cars since there wasn't a 1994 993 in the U.S.)

1995:
3,540 Carrera Coupe
539 Carrera 4 Coupe
3,200 Carrera Cab
458 Carrera 4 Cab
Total=7,737

1996
2,109 Carrera Coupe
411 Carrera 4 Coupe
1,091 Carrera 4S Coupe
2,092 Carrera Cab
1,297 Turbo
484 Carrera Targa
Total=7,484

1997
1,286 Carrera Coupe
1 Carrera 4 Coupe
759 Carrera S Coupe
937 4S Coupe
1,849 Carrera Cab
612 Turbo
176 Turbo S
567 Carrera Targa
Total=6,187

1998
1,292 Carrera Coupe
1,059 Carrera Cab
143 Carrera 4 Cab
122 Carrera Targa
Total=2,616

Total 993 models brought into the U.S.= 24,041 (officially)
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I feel the numbers are wrong for 1998 as I own a 1998 carrera 4s and production numbers aren't listed. Just fyi or I might be driving a fiero built up to look like a porsche...hmmm
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All the 98 Carrera coupes were S

The factory was working through an overrun of turbo bodies prior to launch the aqua car.

I bought my cab late in the 97 model run and told it would be the last. Then someone in PAG purchasing said "Ach du leiber! Ve have lots of da turbo bodiez!"

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Originally Posted by Mike in Chi
All the 98 Carrera coupes were S

The factory was working through an overrun of turbo bodies prior to launch the aqua car.

I bought my cab late in the 97 model run and told it would be the last. Then someone in PAG purchasing said "Ach du leiber! Ve have lots of da turbo bodiez!"
aqua car......you killing me..
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Originally Posted by 95 C4 993
Dont know about black/black but here are the numbers of vehicles. I'd say roughly 200 + or - 50 or so.

Here is total car production

993 coupe 14541
993 cab 7730
993 Targa 4583
993 C4 coupe 2884
993 C4 cab 1284
993 S coupe 3714
993 C4S coupe 6948
993 Turbo 5978
993 Turbo S 345
993 GT2 172
993 GT2 EVO 21
993 RS 1014
993 GT1 road version 2
Worldwide total 49216

1994:
14 Carrera coupe
3 Carrera Cab
Total = 17 (note: These were probably press cars since there wasn't a 1994 993 in the U.S.)

1995:
3,540 Carrera Coupe
539 Carrera 4 Coupe
3,200 Carrera Cab
458 Carrera 4 Cab
Total=7,737

1996
2,109 Carrera Coupe
411 Carrera 4 Coupe
1,091 Carrera 4S Coupe
2,092 Carrera Cab
1,297 Turbo
484 Carrera Targa
Total=7,484

1997
1,286 Carrera Coupe
1 Carrera 4 Coupe
759 Carrera S Coupe
937 4S Coupe
1,849 Carrera Cab
612 Turbo
176 Turbo S
567 Carrera Targa
Total=6,187

1998
1,292 Carrera Coupe
1,059 Carrera Cab
143 Carrera 4 Cab
122 Carrera Targa
Total=2,616

Total 993 models brought into the U.S.= 24,041 (officially)
Only 411 narrow body Carrera 4 Coupes in 1996... I knew these are are
relatively rare cars. Is the 411 number U.S. only or worldwide production?
What is your info source? The referencce books I have don't break out
the Carrera 4's, they're considered "option packages".
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Only information I could get from porsche germany is the main color code percentages for the carrera S ROW.

20 % Vesuvio
15 % black
15 % Navy blue
15 % polar silver
15 % arctic silver
12% yellow, red, white
8 % special orders
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Wow... C4 Cabs are really rare...
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Old 10-19-2006, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 95 C4 993
Dont know about black/black but here are the numbers of vehicles. I'd say roughly 200 + or - 50 or so.

Here is total car production

993 coupe 14541
993 cab 7730
993 Targa 4583
993 C4 coupe 2884
993 C4 cab 1284
993 S coupe 3714
993 C4S coupe 6948
993 Turbo 5978
993 Turbo S 345
993 GT2 172
993 GT2 EVO 21
993 RS 1014
993 GT1 road version 2
Worldwide total 49216
Can you tell us the source of this information? According to my book 68,839 units were built. (Marc Bongers, Porsche- und Ruf-Sportwagen, Stuttgart 2004)

Best regards,

Felix
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Old 10-19-2006, 10:57 AM
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Here is some information from Patrick Paternie's Redbook...it seems there are various numbers all over the place...

From: Porsche 911 Redbook 1965-1999, ISBN 0-7603-0723-7, Patrick C. Paternie 2000.

© Patrick C. Paternie, 2000
All rights reserved. With the exception of quoting brief passages for the purposes of review, no part of this publication may be reproduced without prior written consent from the publisher.

Production from 1/94 to 7/94 (model year 1994):
Carrera - US/Can: 1453 ROW: 6412, Cabriolet - US/Can: 1224 ROW: 5850, Cup - worldwide: 100.

Production from 8/94 to 7/95 (model year 1995):
Carrera - US/Can: 4139 ROW: 7018, Cabriolet - US/Can: 3718 ROW: 2878, Turbo – worldwide: 78,
Cup - worldwide: 110, RS – worldwide: 274.

Production from 8/95 to 7/96 (model year 1996):
Carrera - US/Can: 3671 ROW: 6762, Cabriolet - US/Can: 2152 ROW: 2066, Targa - US/Can: 462 ROW: 1980, Turbo - US/Can: 1357 ROW: 2484, GT2 - worldwide: 202.

Production from 8/96 to 7/97 (model year 1997):
Carrera - US/Can: 4972 ROW: 5794, Cabriolet - US/Can: 2157 ROW: 1679, Targa - US/Can: 567 ROW: 1276, Turbo - US/Can: 1046 ROW: 972.

Production from 8/97 to 7/98 (model year 1998): Carrera - US/Can: 1292 ROW: 780, Cabriolet - US/Can: 1201 ROW: 138, Targa - US/Can: 122 ROW:212, Turbo - worldwide: 739, Cup – worldwide: 30, GT2 – worldwide: 21.

Note: Where I have listed only a worldwide production number, Paternie had no listing for a US/Can number. I don’t think that means that 0 units were produced for the US/Can that year, but rather that his number represents a worldwide number with no breakout for the US/Can.
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I would give my "stock jack" to finally get some reliable production numbers for the 993. Either they are clearly wrong, such as the PCNA numbers above, or they don't provide the full breakdown (such as C4 Cabs in 1996).

Oh well, when I go to sell, I'll use the PCNA numbers that say that my car does not exist......it's really "one of a kind".....except for all the other 96 C4 Cabs on this board.
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Old 10-21-2006, 05:42 AM
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I am not sure about Paternie. He counts each model beginning with VIN ...0001, while Porsche starts with ....61 in the parts catalogue. Maybe you have to subtract 60 from each model.

Furthermore the MY 94 993 produced for US/CDN are most likely "S"-cars instead of "R"-cars as quoted. I think they build "S"-cars in Model Year 94 (before August 1994) for the US. It is quite confusing.

A reliable source for total production figures would be the contemporary annual business report of Porsche AG. Unfortunately I do not have those.

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Originally Posted by Freddy
Wow... C4 Cabs are really rare...
all the C4 NB cars (coupe and cab) are rare...
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Thread revival.

Did anyone get to the bottom of whether an actual '98 production build C4S was sold in the USA? As a buyer at the time, I saw the now venerable "parts-bin" '98 C2S's come through (tried to buy one, white with yellow belts at a Bay Area dealer which was sitting there unsold, and was gazumped as soon as I took any interest in it) but never saw an actual '98 VIN for a C4S -- though I know they're claimed to be owned and sometimes offered for sale, just wondering if this can be proven by a '98 model year VIN.
sidenote: As someone who used to drive a '94 RS America which was routinely greeted with "those don't exist" comments from "knowledgeable" Porschephiles ... I sympathize with any '98 C4S driver being told much the same. The good natured among those learned folks were overjoyed to find out the nugget of trivia that the RSA was indeed built and sold as a '94 with the (ironically lighter) rear seats instead of the "seat delete" rear box, which was an absurd plywood box with glovebox lids and carpet that weighed a ton, but looked the part.
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I've also got a 1998 C4S...my VIN can prove it!

WP0AA2992WSXXXXXX with the W representing 1998 model year - 10th digit is year of car.

Mine was originally sold by dealer on Dec.16th 1997.
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