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Old 01-30-2007, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RickBetterley
Big exchange on pricing of 993s over the last couple of days on the email list. Concensus is that the $37k is pretty high for a 993.
You may wabt to revisit the relative values of the 1995 model year versus the later years; no OBDII is now seen as an advantage that can outweigh the 1996 and later OBDII CEL problem.
Just a thought. Hope it helps.
Definitely. If I end up buying a higher-mileage 993 coupe, I will be looking for a '95 simply to avoid any possible CEL from the SAI system. I'll then spend $300 to chip it to get the same hp as a 96-98.
Old 01-30-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by InTheAir
Definitely. If I end up buying a higher-mileage 993 coupe, I will be looking for a '95 simply to avoid any possible CEL from the SAI system. I'll then spend $300 to chip it to get the same hp as a 96-98.
Exactly! Especially in CA and other smog states, once a 993 has over 50K miles (or even 40K, IMO), the scales tip toward the '95 unless the '96 up has a documented top-end rebuild. Then, re-built OBD II cars become the best values of all! (to a buyer)

This is, of course, all else being equal, and knowing nothing about particular examples in question, service histories, driving stlyle, etc. etc.
Old 01-30-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by InTheAir
Being a recent seller, I can tell you that the comments of one seller are hardly representative of black '95 coupe owners in general.
I know. I ended up buying a black/black '95 from someone else, so I have no prejudices against the color or owners I just brought this up to show the mindset of some sellers, which isn't conducive to selling a car in a reasonable timeframe.

-John
Old 01-30-2007, 03:08 PM
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Remember that is his ASKING price.

An all cash buyer at $35 probably would take it.

Having purchased a reasonably low mile '96 with lots of options for about that price over two years ago I'd say the price is still a little bit high.

That said, IF the car is truly in great condition inside and out with all of the proper maintenance done I think it is probably worth the money to the RIGHT buyer.

Personally I think that black 993's are probably worth less just because they are such a PIA to keep looking nice and because many have not been kept looking nice. I wanted silver and looked and looked and looked. Finally my black one came along at the right price with all the goodies. In the end wasn't as slamming a deal as I had hoped. Had to replace brake booster, rev. light switch, repair door check strap, lower valve cover gaskets, front rotors, found stored SAI fault codes.....BUT......I still love it.

Comes down to how desperate the buyer or seller is and how big an issue the $$$ is. Wonder what a comparably priced 996 would look like?
Old 01-30-2007, 03:37 PM
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"it's comparing apples to oranges. i'm a pca member and if my car had 39k miles i'be asking 40+, it's because guards red is a super weak color. nobody wants which is why it is priced that way. black/black commands the most amount of money and it's not even arguable. but thanks for your time."
Hmm, seems the problem is with *********, not black 993s. "i'm a pca member" Ooooh, Ahhhh.
Old 01-30-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mhm993
Well, midnight blue pearl metallic is the king of 993 colors! Heck, i knew I could successfully talk the wife into into the necessity of two p-cars by promising to find a midnight blue 993.

Blue Porsches. Because you won't have to get divorced?

(In her defense, Mindy picked the first Pcar while I chose the color)


i like midnight blue too.
Old 01-31-2007, 10:17 PM
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hey i just paid $34750 for a '95 993 black coupe with 37K miles and couldn't be happier! purchased on Long Island, NY
Old 01-31-2007, 11:18 PM
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>carreranow hey i just paid $34750 for a '95 993 black coupe with 37K miles and couldn't be happier!

Another proud new papa heard from!

(and time to pay your dues and join Rlist!)
Old 02-01-2007, 03:27 AM
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Mine may be for sale sooner than later... It looks like I may be discharged (medically) from the AF early. If I'm not well when I go out the door I may be facing some unemployment until I heal.

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Damn Leland, sorry to hear this.. Hope things work out for you!!
Old 02-01-2007, 12:00 PM
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Damn collar bone!
Old 02-01-2007, 11:33 PM
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hey mhm...
i emailed them for membership info and haven't heard back. it's the least i can do. stroll down my side of 140 bway and fill me in.
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