997 Tranny Made in Japan, what do you think?
12-06-2006, 09:51 PM
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997 Tranny Made in Japan, what do you think?
I was at European Performance in Raleigh, NC today...what a great shop...reason enough to own Porsches. They had removed the drivetrain from a 997 for a local body shop...the body shop is repairing significant rear end damage. I took the liberty to shoot a few photos of the Japanese transmission. The bolt tray shows the numbers of bolts required to hold the drivetrain in place...plus there are a couple of wheel bolts in the tray. It's hard to believe that's all the bolts necessary, but that is it!
12-06-2006, 11:00 PM
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I think the gearbox on the 997GT3 (and maybe Turbo) is still a German Getrag. The rest are made by Aisin in Japan. I think the dry-sump motors are packaged with the German gearboxes...
12-06-2006, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 993James993
I could be wrong but I don't think that your 993 is totally made in Germany. My wheels are stamped "Made in Italy" and I have no reason to think that they are not 100% Porsche. The Nokia sound system is not German, unless I am mistaken. I would be surprised if there are not some Japanese components, especially electronics, in the 993. Does anyone know for sure?
In most cases I am of the opinion that anything still made in Japan is usually top quality. If Porsche chose a Japanese made transmission for the 997 I'm certain that quality and then price drove that choice. It would be interesting to know which Japanese company provides that component. In any event I would not hold this against the 997.
In most cases I am of the opinion that anything still made in Japan is usually top quality. If Porsche chose a Japanese made transmission for the 997 I'm certain that quality and then price drove that choice. It would be interesting to know which Japanese company provides that component. In any event I would not hold this against the 997.
12-06-2006, 11:18 PM
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I rented a 2001 996 in Germany when it was nearly new (500 miles) and 4th gear stopped working intermittently...
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Texas and Bull: You guys are being a little harsh, don't you think. I think we should cut hte guy some slack.
Toby: Thanks for the pics, evenif you are not the first ! : )
The quality of the 997 tranny is a fair question, particularly as it relates to our beloved g-50's. I find the eternal comparison between our higher cost rebuildable engines and trannies vrs the newer less expensive modular replacements is fascinating; but that's just me.
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Toby: Thanks for the pics, evenif you are not the first ! : )
The quality of the 997 tranny is a fair question, particularly as it relates to our beloved g-50's. I find the eternal comparison between our higher cost rebuildable engines and trannies vrs the newer less expensive modular replacements is fascinating; but that's just me.
Jack
12-07-2006, 12:01 AM
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I think the gearbox on the 997GT3 (and maybe Turbo) is still a German Getrag. The rest are made by Aisin in Japan. .
12-07-2006, 12:33 AM
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Wow, its made in Japan? I guess its inferior. Good thing you have a 100% made in Germany 911.
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12-07-2006, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by pedsurg
Texas and Bull: You guys are being a little harsh, don't you think. I think we should cut hte guy some slack.
Toby: Thanks for the pics, evenif you are not the first ! : )
The quality of the 997 tranny is a fair question, particularly as it relates to our beloved g-50's. I find the eternal comparison between our higher cost rebuildable engines and trannies vrs the newer less expensive modular replacements is fascinating; but that's just me.
Jack
Toby: Thanks for the pics, evenif you are not the first ! : )
The quality of the 997 tranny is a fair question, particularly as it relates to our beloved g-50's. I find the eternal comparison between our higher cost rebuildable engines and trannies vrs the newer less expensive modular replacements is fascinating; but that's just me.
Jack
12-07-2006, 10:01 AM
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EDIT: I was corrected by a good friend of mine (who knows about Porsche a million times more than I do, thank you sir!).
996 tranny is mabe by Getrag, same company that made 993 & 964 transmissions.
Other (notable) change in real engine (= dry-sump) department, GT3 crankcase is made in Spain nowadays, this change occured with late 996 GT3s, early 996 GT3 crankcases are were still old 964.xxx casting numbers.
996 tranny is mabe by Getrag, same company that made 993 & 964 transmissions.
Other (notable) change in real engine (= dry-sump) department, GT3 crankcase is made in Spain nowadays, this change occured with late 996 GT3s, early 996 GT3 crankcases are were still old 964.xxx casting numbers.
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